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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / October 200610.4.8 broke my Mail.app
I use Mail.app with SSL to access one of my email accounts. After the 10.4.8 system upgrade, IMAP/SSL still works ok, but SMTP/SSL complains about the server certificate (which is valid) and gets into a loop of continuously opening and abandoning SMTP sockets on the server (I'm the owner/sysadmin of the server, so I can observe this firsthand). To be clear, my version of Mail.app is 2.1 (752/752.2). Has anyone else observed any similar weirdness? cb > I use Mail.app with SSL to access one of my email accounts. > After the 10.4.8 system upgrade, IMAP/SSL still works ok, but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Has anyone else observed any similar weirdness? No problem here using the same version and facilities. I have read reports that running the 10.4.8 combo updater cleared up various strange problems/conditions. I don't know of any downside, so it might be worth a try.  SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > I use Mail.app with SSL to access one of my email accounts. > After the 10.4.8 system upgrade, IMAP/SSL still works ok, but > SMTP/SSL complains about the server certificate (which is valid) > and gets into a loop of continuously opening and abandoning > SMTP sockets on the server (I'm the owner/sysadmin of the > server, so I can observe this firsthand). I had this problem with my upgrade to 10.4.5. Went round and round including a post to Apple's board for which I got zero responses; and and after 40 hours of troubleshooting never found a solution. My 'fix' was to turn off ssl on the smtp. :/ After a couple of other difficulties with other subsystems of 10.4, I came up with an idea but haven't tried it out yet. Perhaps you want to be the guinea pig and report back. After doing a complete backup, open the Accounts pane in the Mail prefs and delete entirely the entry for the mail service giving you problems. Then quit Mail and perhaps log out. Open up Mail again and recreate the account and see if it works. This idea sprang to mind because I solved an analogous wireless network issue by deleting and re-establishing the network entry (now a commonly used technique for the problem). Might work for Mail too. Remember the complete backup! Good luck, --Fred : After doing a complete backup, open the Accounts pane in the Mail prefs : and delete entirely the entry for the mail service giving you problems. : Then quit Mail and perhaps log out. Open up Mail again and recreate the : account and see if it works. I tried this. I tried deleting the mail prefs altogether. Now I can't get Mail.app to send much of anything, anywhere, after adding new accounts. This is just really bizarre. cb > : After doing a complete backup, open the Accounts pane in the Mail prefs > : and delete entirely the entry for the mail service giving you problems. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Now I can't get Mail.app to send much of anything, anywhere, > after adding new accounts. This is just really bizarre. Did you have any third-party plugins installed for Mail before the 10.4.8 update? :> : After doing a complete backup, open the Accounts pane in the Mail prefs :> : and delete entirely the entry for the mail service giving you problems. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : Did you have any third-party plugins installed for Mail before the : 10.4.8 update? No. I need to retract my last post, though. Because I usually work from an SBC DSL dynamic IP pool, I can't use port 25 for SMTP relaying, so I use port 587, the SMTP submission port. (SBC filters outbound 25 for spam/virus control reasons.) Mail.app likes to test port 25 when the account is setup, which causes irritatingly long timeouts at configuration time... so I use the form mail.domain.tld:587 as the server name, which causes a much faster lookup failure. Then I edit the server name, removing the ':587' and confirming the SMTP port is set to 587 (which it always is, that part of Mail.app's logic works as it should, go figure). Anyway, I forgot to go back and edit the ':587' out after the "remove the prefs file" trick. But the SSL bug remained. Next I'm going to try this on my wife's iBook. If it has the same problem, I'm just going to chalk it up as a Mail.app bug and figure out something else to try, I guess. cb : Next I'm going to try this on my wife's iBook. If it has the : same problem, I'm just going to chalk it up as a Mail.app bug : and figure out something else to try, I guess. OK, it's definitely a 10.4.8 jumbo upgrade deal. When I first tried it on her machine, she was still on 10.4.7 and it worked fine. Then I ran Software Update and upgraded to 10.4.8. Bam, the same problem arose. I submitted a bug report to Apple the other day. Hopefully they'll act on it fairly quickly. This sucks. cb |
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