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Mac Forum / Applications / Mac Applications / October 2006BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't lose them or have to do tooooo much work? TIA > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer > preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't > lose them or have to do tooooo much work? well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, there are tons of email clients on osx. either way, you don't need any of them to move over old claris email, Emailchemy (google for it) will convert them into anything you want. >> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > there are tons of email clients on osx. I like Thunderbird. Phil > >> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I like Thunderbird. Thunderbird might be good for email, but the newsgroup side of it is really a rather poor cousin.  SignaturePaul Sture > > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > there are tons of email clients on osx. What are the bugs you are referring to in Mail? <snip> > > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > > there are tons of email clients on osx. > > What are the bugs you are referring to in Mail? there are about 40 known bugs... the most annoying are it hiccups when a mail server doesn't respond, asking you for a password when it should just ignore the unresponsive server. formating waaaaay sucks. text format assumes you want, whatever the last style/font/size that the last portion of the text is, when it should retain the default style/font/size. cutting and pasting text, often times thinks you are pasting as a "quotation" when you aren't. no way to manage attachments, dealing with images in mail especially sucks. adding / subtracting accounts sometimes doesn't stick, you have to quit and reopen mail for them to work. if you don't know this, it can be maddening. don't have time to list more, but here is a page that has many more. http://www.hawkwings.net/category/apple-mail-bugs/ the problem is apple mail is really, old NeXT mail, hasn't really been updated in 20 years. > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > there are tons of email clients on osx. Tons of emailclients? > either way, you don't need any of them to move over old claris email, > Emailchemy (google for it) will convert them into anything you want. I second that. Emailchemy does a very good job. But unfortunately, it's not able to import any of my OS 9 Hogwasher and Musashi archives:-( SignatureSZ > > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > > there are tons of email clients on osx. > > Tons of emailclients? yes, are you confused over "tons" or the word "client" when used it in regards to end user mail apps? currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most respects. http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client > > either way, you don't need any of them to move over old claris email, > > Emailchemy (google for it) will convert them into anything you want. > > I second that. Emailchemy does a very good job. > But unfortunately, it's not able to import any of my OS 9 Hogwasher and > Musashi archives:-( and why would it need to import hogwasher? Musashi on the other hand was barely used by anyone. >>> well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, >>> there are tons of email clients on osx. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > respects. What happened to the days when Windows had more software, and you guys were saying "Duh, gee... why do you need 12 different word processors?" Right back at ya... why do you need so many email clients? > http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client [snip] Signature"But SunOS was just a purchased OS. Like Apple, Sun purchased and [sic] OS and then developed it. No more." -- Alan "Wrong Again" Baker > >>> well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > >>> there are tons of email clients on osx. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Right back at ya... why do you need so many email clients? The p=oint being made was _not_ that there is a benefit in having a lot of clients, it was that there are choices other than the two mentioned. Since the OP was asking about a better client, it is relevant to point that out. You don't have the option of assuming that the poster agrees lots of clients are better than a few. > > >>> well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > > >>> there are tons of email clients on osx. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The p=oint being made was _not_ that there is a benefit in having a lot > of clients, it was that there are choices other than the two mentioned. Which was the same point being made about Windows software. > Since the OP was asking about a better client, it is relevant to point > that out. Yet turnabout is still fair play. > You don't have the option of assuming that the poster agrees lots of > clients are better than a few. I do have the option of throwing Maccie's words back in their faces, to expose them for the hypocrites they are. > > The point being made was _not_ that there is a benefit in having a lot > > of clients, it was that there are choices other than the two mentioned. > > Which was the same point being made about Windows software. No, Edwin, the point being made about Windows was the general one -- that there are more choices in all categories. In this case, the OP mentioned only two, and the OP was reminded that there were more than two. See the difference? > > Since the OP was asking about a better client, it is relevant to point > > that out. > > Yet turnabout is still fair play. Of course it is -- but this wasn't a discussion about different platforms in any way at all. There is no turnabout for you to have. Nothing. Find it somewhere else. > > You don't have the option of assuming that the poster agrees lots of > > clients are better than a few. > > I do have the option of throwing Maccie's words back in their faces, to > expose them for the hypocrites they are. If you can do it, and your argument does that, of course. Notice, of course, that simply throwing words back at someone doesn't succeed in making any point. You'd just fail at making them look like hypocrites, instead of failing at making an original and intelligent point yourself. You see, you actually have to be on the correct topic in order for any of it to make sense. You can't win if you're playing baseball during the football game. That's what you tried to do here -- you tried to show that the point was invalid because an unrelated argument made an almost inverted point; you tried to turn this into a discussion of platform, which it was not. > and why would it need to import hogwasher? Presumably the individual to whom you're responding has lots of emails stored in Hogwasher archives. Hogwasher works as an email client very nicely indeed. I use it for email discussion lists because it has a thread map and I feel that for email discussion lists Hogwasher is just about as good as it gets :) SignaturePatrick Brighton, UK > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > respects. > > http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client That url isn't working at the moment, SignaturePaul Sture > > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > > respects. > > > > http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client > > That url isn't working at the moment, yes, jeff has been switching around isp's, so hang on, the url is valid and will work again once the switch is complete. > > > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > > > respects. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > yes, jeff has been switching around isp's, so hang on, the url is valid > and will work again once the switch is complete. Thanks. Bookmarked for when that's done. SignaturePaul Sture > > > well it's not apple mail, it's very buggy. not sure about powermail, > > > there are tons of email clients on osx. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > yes, are you confused over "tons" or the word "client" when used it in > regards to end user mail apps? "tons" like thousands. > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > respects. > > http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client I like that listing. Hyperjeff rules. > > > either way, you don't need any of them to move over old claris email, > > > Emailchemy (google for it) will convert them into anything you want. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and why would it need to import hogwasher? Musashi on the other hand was > barely used by anyone. I would be very happy with anything that would help to import these last snippets of mail. Musashi is exotic, indeed. SignatureSZ > > > Tons of emailclients? > > > > yes, are you confused over "tons" or the word "client" when used it in > > regards to end user mail apps? > > "tons" like thousands. Tons in like more weight than you need to deal with. Surely 40+ email clients is enough for anyones stature. > > currently there are 46 mail clients for osx, that's a "ton" in most > > respects. > > > > http://hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps.php?f=mail%20client > > I like that listing. Hyperjeff rules. yeah, he keeps an up to date list of all OSX apps, he's a programmer by trade but does this on the side. > > > > either way, you don't need any of them to move over old claris email, > > > > Emailchemy (google for it) will convert them into anything you want. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I would be very happy with anything that would help to import these last > snippets of mail. Musashi is exotic, indeed. then Emailchemy is your ticket, it understands all Claris emailer versions just fine. http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/ > > I would be very happy with anything that would help to import these last > > snippets of mail. Musashi is exotic, indeed. > > then Emailchemy is your ticket, it understands all Claris emailer > versions just fine. Emailchemy is indeed a nice solution. Claris Emailer files aren't the problem, it doesn't work on Hoghwasher ore Mushashi mailboxes. SignatureSZ > it doesn't work on Hoghwasher ore Mushashi mailboxes. yeah, but you should expect that for living that far out of mainstream... hogwasher does does email? i never knew. and never have even heard of Mushashi. > > it doesn't work on Hoghwasher ore Mushashi mailboxes. > > yeah, but you should expect that for living that far out of mainstream... I've learned from that;-) Right now, I use mostly programs that come with the box. SignatureSZ > hogwasher does does email? i never knew. and never have even heard of > Mushashi. Hogwasher is great for email discussion lists. It has a lovely thread map which makes email discussion lists very easy to navigate. SignaturePatrick Brighton, UK > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? I don't think you can talk in terms of "best email program" because they all have their advantages and disadvantages. What matters is what you intend to use it for methinks. I find Apple Mail to be very good for my purposes, just general emailing. However as I rather like email discussion lists I use my newsreader, Hogwasher, for those. I've never used Powermail, but I used to use Eudora on the classic OS up to version 4. The great joy of Eudora was that it was extremely customisable but I don't know what the latest versions are like. SignaturePatrick Brighton, UK > I've never used Powermail, but I used to use Eudora on the classic OS > up to version 4. The great joy of Eudora was that it was extremely > customisable but I don't know what the latest versions are like. Eudora hasn't change since... SignatureSZ > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? IMO? Evolution. > > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > IMO? Evolution. What's "Evolution"? >>> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? >> IMO? Evolution. > > What's "Evolution"? http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer > preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't > lose them or have to do tooooo much work? Best is a relative term. I have no experience with Claris software, so I can't comment on that part of your question. > > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Best is a relative term. I have no experience with Claris software, so I > can't comment on that part of your question. Claris Emailer was very nice. Unfortunatelly there was no fix for the millenium bug. SignatureSZ > > > What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail??? > > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Claris Emailer was very nice. Unfortunatelly there was no fix for the > millenium bug. What happened at Y2K? > > > Best is a relative term. I have no experience with Claris software, so I > > > can't comment on that part of your question. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What happened at Y2K? http://www.macintouch.com/y2k.html#emailer > > Claris Emailer was very nice. Unfortunatelly there was no fix for the > > millenium bug. > > What happened at Y2K? Nothing serious, it only killed Eamiler and my banking program. SignatureSZ |
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