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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / July 2008Can't install 9 Classic?
I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have selected it in the prefs, I have tried holding down the C key. Nothing works, keeps restarting in tiger. Any ideas out there? Thanks. > I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install > classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have > selected it in the prefs, I have tried holding down the C key. Nothing > works, keeps restarting in tiger. Any ideas out there? Thanks. It's an OS 9 disk, and your G4 will not boot OS 9. Since you are running Tiger, I take it you have a set of Tiger install disks. You should be able to install Classic from there. I have forgotten the details, but I think there was a disk marked "additional software" or something of the sort.  SignatureDave Seaman Third Circuit ignores precedent in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling. <http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/03/29/18489281.php> > > I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install > > classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > install Classic from there. I have forgotten the details, but I think there > was a disk marked "additional software" or something of the sort. <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86775> > > I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install > > classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have > > selected it in the prefs, I have tried holding down the C key. Nothing > > works, keeps restarting in tiger. Any ideas out there? Thanks. > > It's an OS 9 disk, and your G4 will not boot OS 9. The MDDs could boot 9. More likely is that the OP's OS 9 disc is either not bootable or not appropriate for the machine. G Signature"Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?" - Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix > The MDDs could boot 9. Not the FW800 models Apple introduced in January, 2003. These included a dual 1.25 GHz model, so it's possible the OP has one of these. SignatureI kill Google Groups posts. See http://improve-usenet.org for details. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude >> The MDDs could boot 9. > > Not the FW800 models Apple introduced in January, 2003. These included a > dual 1.25 GHz model, so it's possible the OP has one of these. Thanks everyone, OP here. Above could be the problem. How do I know if it's a MDD or a FW? I can't find either designation anywhere on it. The model # is M8570, which doesn't seem to match up with either at everymac.com. > > Not the FW800 models Apple introduced in January, 2003. These included a > > dual 1.25 GHz model, so it's possible the OP has one of these. > > Thanks everyone, OP here. Above could be the problem. How do I know if > it's a MDD or a FW? For starters, if it's a FW800 model, it would have an FW800 port in addition to the two standard FireWire (FW400) ports > I can't find either designation anywhere on it. The > model # is M8570, which doesn't seem to match up with either at > everymac.com. Well, I think it must be in this family: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP63 That means it _should_ boot OS 9, so we're back to surmising that you're not using an OS 9 CD that supports this model. As I recall, it requires OS 9.2.2 and a standard retail version of OS 9 could _not_ be used with the MDD. Instead, you would need to use the discs that shipped with it. SignatureI kill Google Groups posts. See http://improve-usenet.org for details. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude In article <Pine.SOC.4.64.0807091157470.28141@ubunix2.acsu.buffalo.edu>, > >> The MDDs could boot 9. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > model # is M8570, which doesn't seem to match up with either at > everymac.com. Bizarrely, the 8570 appears to designate *both* models. But there's hope, implied in the official names of the machines. In the last decade or so, when Apple named a new variant of a machine, they gave it a name that referenced some reliable point of differentiation from the model that was replaced. If you've got a FW800 port, you've got the "G4 (FW800)" rather than the "G4 (MDD)." <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739> "The simplest way to differentiate the Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors) and the Power Mac G4 (FW 800) is by looking at the FireWire ports. The FW 800 will have three FireWire ports while the Mirrored Drive Doors model will have two (see Figure 1)." Signature"Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?" - Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix Thanks everyone, & Mike & Greg. Problem solved (I think). The machine is indeed a MDD, not a FW800. So I guess that means that my copy of 9.0 that I've used on my Beige G3, then B&W G3, then Quicksilver G4, won't work on the MDD. Will have to get a 9.2x install disc. MK > Thanks everyone, & Mike & Greg. Problem solved (I think). The machine is > indeed a MDD, not a FW800. So I guess that means that my copy of 9.0 that > I've used on my Beige G3, then B&W G3, then Quicksilver G4, won't work on > the MDD. Will have to get a 9.2x install disc. There's another long-shot possibility. If the HD was replaced at some point (it's old enough it could have been), the person who installed the new drive and OS 10 might not have installed the OS 9 drivers if he never intended to use the Mac with OS 9. Boot from your OS 10 install disk and see if you can install the OS 9 drivers. Can't remember if you have to reinitialized the HD to do this, so make a backup. --Fred > Thanks everyone, & Mike & Greg. Problem solved (I think). The machine is > indeed a MDD, not a FW800. So I guess that means that my copy of 9.0 that > I've used on my Beige G3, then B&W G3, then Quicksilver G4, won't work on > the MDD. Will have to get a 9.2x install disc. That probably won't work. You need the Tiger install discs, not a 9.2 disc. SignatureDave Seaman Third Circuit ignores precedent in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling. <http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/03/29/18489281.php> > That probably won't work. You need the Tiger install discs, not a 9.2 disc. If you mean specifically the installation discs that came with the G4 (and I believe Jaguar was current at the time, not Tiger), yes, I believe you're correct. The retail Tiger package did not include OS 9 at all). SignatureI kill Google Groups posts. See http://improve-usenet.org for details. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > Thanks everyone, & Mike & Greg. Problem solved (I think). The machine is > indeed a MDD, not a FW800. So I guess that means that my copy of 9.0 that > I've used on my Beige G3, then B&W G3, then Quicksilver G4, won't work on > the MDD. No guesswork involved - it won't work. > Will have to get a 9.2x install disc. Is there another Mac available to you that already has OS 9.2.2 installed? You could just copy it over. That _usually_ works. SignatureI kill Google Groups posts. See http://improve-usenet.org for details. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > Is there another Mac available to you that already has OS 9.2.2 > installed? You could just copy it over. That _usually_ works. See my prior post; that's what I have always done. The last time I panicked that I'd lost Classic forever, I phoned Apple. That guy basically said I could only retain Classic if I continuously upgraded over my original Jaguar install over the years. He didn't mention the approach for copying over the System folder for Classic. Fortunately, I remember that trick. SignatureDan Stephenson Photos, movies, panos from the Europe, USA, plus N.Z.: http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda (remove nospam from email address to reply via email) > > Is there another Mac available to you that already has OS 9.2.2 > > installed? You could just copy it over. That _usually_ works. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > He didn't mention the approach for copying over the System folder for > Classic. Fortunately, I remember that trick. I keep a Stuffit archive of my last Mac OS 9 "System Folder" in my archive in case I ever need it again. Through the years my "installing Mac OS 9" procedure would be "copy the Stuffit archive and expand it". : ) SignatureSend responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR > > The MDDs could boot 9. > > Not the FW800 models Apple introduced in January, 2003. These included a > dual 1.25 GHz model, so it's possible the OP has one of these. Fair point. It's not strictly correct to call those machines MDDs, but they're not trivially distinguishable from the "real" MDD models. And it's further confused by the fact that the *June* 2003 1.25GHz G4 *will* boot 9. But that's a single CPU and the OP did specifically note that his is a dual. Signature"Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?" - Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix > > > The MDDs could boot 9. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > boot 9. But that's a single CPU and the OP did specifically note that > his is a dual. I bought a FW800 PCI card and the FW ports are different from the FW400 ports on my 1GHz Dual G4. And the FW800 cable is different. If you've got the FW800 ports, they're SQUARE rather than a squashed "D" shape. SignatureDeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically by ignored] >I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install >classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have >selected it in the prefs, I have tried holding down the C key. Nothing >works, keeps restarting in tiger. Any ideas out there? Thanks. What kind of CD do you have? There were product specific OS-CDs for different models and a general OS9 CD. Regards, Christoph Gartmann SignatureMax-Planck-Institut fuer Phone : +49-761-5108-464 Fax: -452 Immunbiologie Postfach 1169 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de D-79011 Freiburg, Germany http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html > I have a mirror door G4 dual 1.25 with 10.4.6. I am trying to install > classic but it won't let me start up from the 9 install disc. I have > selected it in the prefs, I have tried holding down the C key. Nothing > works, keeps restarting in tiger. Any ideas out there? Thanks. Do you have the old System folder for Classic? That's what I have works.. you cannot 'install' it, rather, you have to copy the folder over from a backup. Every time I used to upgrade MacOS, where I always preferred a fresh install, I'd have a momentary panic when I could re-install Classic via my very original Jaguar install discs. So, in summary, copy your Classic System folder over to the root, level, and iirc, that's it. An icon will show up in the System Preferences without you having to do anything. SignatureDan Stephenson Photos, movies, panos from the Europe, USA, plus N.Z.: http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda (remove nospam from email address to reply via email) |
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