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bearclaw@cruller.invalid - 05 Nov 2007 17:16 GMT
Considering purchasing an external drive for my Intel Mini for use as
media depository and backup drive. I want to create bootable volumes for
experimenting with other OSes (XP on one, Linux variant on another,
Leopard on a third, perhaps Panther on fourth) for my work as tech
support. I'm currently using Tiger as my main OS, since it came with the
Mini. (I would also appreciate advice on how-- or if it is even
possible-- to run and switch between multiple OSes simultaneously if
possible.)

I'm pretty sure a 500 GB drive should do the trick, and thus far, my
best choice looks like the NewerTech MiniStack, followed closely by the
Iomega MiniMax for the combined small footprints, their matching Mini
styles, FW 400 bootability and their integration with the Mini's power
switch. The fewer decibels, the better.

I hope to draw some ideas, reviews or criticisms of my choices. Any
links, reports or advice welcomed and TIA.
The New Guy - 05 Nov 2007 17:39 GMT
> Considering purchasing an external drive for my Intel Mini for use as
> media depository and backup drive. I want to create bootable volumes for
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> possible-- to run and switch between multiple OSes simultaneously if
> possible.)

If its a PPC G4 you'll need firewire if you want to be able to boot
from it.  Otherwise any USB will work if using an Intel Mini.

Parallels should enable switching but you'll run a little slower I
think than if you had a "fresh start" with Boot Camp.  

> I'm pretty sure a 500 GB drive should do the trick, and thus far, my
> best choice looks like the NewerTech MiniStack, followed closely by the
> Iomega MiniMax for the combined small footprints, their matching Mini
> styles, FW 400 bootability and their integration with the Mini's power
> switch. The fewer decibels, the better.

For a small footprint, just place it on its side if you're sure it
won't get knocked over during operation.  Watch the heat - some cases
are horrible at keeping things at near room temperature.  Sometimes
just removing the bottom (where most of the heat comes from in a hard
drive) does a world of good and then you may not need any cooling fan
at all.  Though you'll have to distance yourself from the whine of the
hard drive unless you've lost your high frequency hearing.  High
frequencies don't go around corners well so by careful positioning of
your workspace may render that hard drive inaudible.  

Remember that you're buying 2 things:  an external case and a hard
drive.  Separate specs.  When people combine things in purchasing they
usually compromise and wind up with something not quite that they need.

> I hope to draw some ideas, reviews or criticisms of my choices. Any
> links, reports or advice welcomed and TIA.

The weakest link in the Intel Mini is the speed of that tiny internal
hard drive.  Rid yourself of it and use a full size Sata drive powered
by the power supply of an external case.  For the money you can sell
the notebook drive for, you should be able to buy a 300gb or larger
7200 rpm full size drive.  

Hopefully you've got 2 or 3 gb's of 667mhz ram stuffed in there.

And if you're burning a lot of DVD's sell off the slot loading drive
(they don't last very long) and buy a $15-$20 used dual layer DVD
drive that will last a long time.  But remember if you're using a PPC
Mini it will be have to be firewire.
Xavier Llobet - 06 Nov 2007 08:53 GMT
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<replytogroup-E6A7B8.11391805112007@news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,

> The weakest link in the Intel Mini is the speed of that tiny internal
> hard drive.  Rid yourself of it and use a full size Sata drive powered
> by the power supply of an external case.  For the money you can sell
> the notebook drive for, you should be able to buy a 300gb or larger
> 7200 rpm full size drive.  

If I understand you correctly, you mean to eliminate the internal disk,
and use an internal SATA cable to conect the mac Mini to the externally
powered SATA disk. That would mean leaving the Mac mini open or drilling
a hole in its case for the cable. Efficient, but not very elegant...

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The New Guy - 06 Nov 2007 16:14 GMT
> > The weakest link in the Intel Mini is the speed of that tiny internal
> > hard drive.  Rid yourself of it and use a full size Sata drive powered
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> and use an internal SATA cable to conect the mac Mini to the externally
> powered SATA disk.

Exactly.

> That would mean leaving the Mac mini open or drilling
> a hole in its case for the cable. Efficient, but not very elegant...

Well if you want to improve the cooling of the tightly packed Mini,
obviously leaving it open will drastically lower operating
temperatures.  As long as you're not operating in a very high dust
environment its an improvement.  Ridding yourself of the optical disc
is another huge benefit.  And if you want access to the ram you have
it.  

But if you're determined to operate it looking stock you can cut off
the end of a sata cable, thread it through one of the bottom vents,
and then resolder the cable.  So it can be done.  For some of us,  
there are so many advantages of not having everything packed in like a
sardine can, its a no brainer.  Your mileage my differ.
Neill Massello - 05 Nov 2007 18:53 GMT
> I'm pretty sure a 500 GB drive should do the trick, and thus far, my
> best choice looks like the NewerTech MiniStack, followed closely by the
> Iomega MiniMax for the combined small footprints, their matching Mini
> styles, FW 400 bootability and their integration with the Mini's power
> switch. The fewer decibels, the better.

It looks like the NewerTech MiniStack and the Iomega MiniMax enclosures
are the same thing with different name plates. I tried a MiniStack v3
but didn't like it. The fan was fairly loud, running even when the drive
was spun down, but still didn't keep the drive from becoming quite hot
to the touch.

For low noise, take a look at a vented fanless enclosures such as
AddLogix' FireXpress or OWC's Mercury Elite-AL.

<http://www.welovemacs.com/fxu2eb35l.html>
<http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/400+USB2/>
The New Guy - 06 Nov 2007 01:37 GMT
> > I'm pretty sure a 500 GB drive should do the trick, and thus far, my
> > best choice looks like the NewerTech MiniStack, followed closely by the
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> <http://www.welovemacs.com/fxu2eb35l.html>
> <http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/400+USB2/>

Exactly......if the case designer isn't a total idiot and provides
avenues for the heat to escape, who needs some silly fan?  Especially
as hard drives aren't so sensitive to dust.
 
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