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Ravishankar S - 23 Aug 2007 17:11 GMT
Hello,

With the Mac OS X work on my laptop, Sony VAIO VGN N32M/W with the Core2Duo
processor and Intel 950GMA graphics card ?

Kind Regards
Ravishankar
D.F. Manno - 23 Aug 2007 21:57 GMT
> Hello,
>
> With the Mac OS X work on my laptop, Sony VAIO VGN N32M/W with the Core2Duo
> processor and Intel 950GMA graphics card ?

Not without hacking the software and violating the terms of purchase.

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Daniel Cohen - 24 Aug 2007 07:27 GMT
> Hello,
>
> With the Mac OS X work on my laptop, Sony VAIO VGN N32M/W with the Core2Duo
> processor and Intel 950GMA graphics card ?

Mac OS X only works on Macs. There are some hacks that may make it
usable on PCs, but I wouldn't rely on it.

On the other hand, Windows (various versions, including Vista nd XP)
will work on Intel Macs.

That's one reason why Mac laptops are selling so well at present.

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Ravishankar S - 24 Aug 2007 09:14 GMT
> > Hello,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> That's one reason why Mac laptops are selling so well at present.

Will it work if I use a virtualization software like VirtualBox or Xen (on
WinXP) ?

--Ravishankar
Ravishankar S - 27 Aug 2007 09:51 GMT
> Will it work if I use a virtualization software like VirtualBox or Xen (on
> WinXP) ?

I answer my own question by doing some searching on the web. It is possible
to run Max OS X on the PC using a emulation software like pearpc. I think it
may be possible to do it with ppcsim (part of gdb).
Ben - 27 Aug 2007 11:49 GMT
>> Will it work if I use a virtualization software like VirtualBox or Xen (on
>> WinXP) ?
>
> I answer my own question by doing some searching on the web. It is possible
> to run Max OS X on the PC using a emulation software like pearpc. I think it
> may be possible to do it with ppcsim (part of gdb).

Yes it may be possible to run OSX on a PC with PearPc, however the web
site is hardly encouraging, it will run at either 1/500th of the host
CPU speed or 1/15 speed depending on the emulation mode, it will also
crash a lot.
the question is why do you want to run OSX illegally on a PC (it is a
violation of the license to run it on non Apple hardware) as it will not
be particularly usable as the hardware support is very limited (no USB
or sound to name 2 things from the web site)
Ben.
Ravishankar S - 27 Aug 2007 14:26 GMT
> >> Will it work if I use a virtualization software like VirtualBox or Xen (on
> >> WinXP) ?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> CPU speed or 1/15 speed depending on the emulation mode, it will also
> crash a lot.

cpu performace should not be a problem with Core2Duo.

> the question is why do you want to run OSX illegally on a PC (it is a
> violation of the license to run it on non Apple hardware) as it will not
> be particularly usable as the hardware support is very limited (no USB
> or sound to name 2 things from the web site)
> Ben.

Simply to experience using a Mac. Its quite rare to see a real Mac in india.
But if its illegal to run it on any other h/w, as you say...
..then I probably to look to buy a used Mac somewhere.
Ravishankar S - 24 Aug 2007 09:17 GMT
> > Hello,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> That's one reason why Mac laptops are selling so well at present.

just for curiosity.
I heard that XP and Win2k based on NT is portable to many architectures. So
is there no port of XP to PowerPC based Mac's ?
Franjo Žilić - 24 Aug 2007 10:44 GMT
>>> Hello,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I heard that XP and Win2k based on NT is portable to many architectures. So
> is there no port of XP to PowerPC based Mac's ?

there was a powerpc version of nt, i think a version 3, maybe 4... but
it didn't live for long, 'cose there wasn't any software for it... not
only that os had to be ported, but every application, driver also had to
be ported... and that made power pc version of nt fail...
Daniel Cohen - 24 Aug 2007 15:00 GMT
Franjo ?ili? <franjo.zilic@ri.t-com.hr> wrote:

> > just for curiosity.
> > I heard that XP and Win2k based on NT is portable to many architectures. So
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> only that os had to be ported, but every application, driver also had to
> be ported... and that made power pc version of nt fail...

There was a version of Virtual PC for a time. I think it never got
ported to OS X.

The point about the new Macs is that, because they use Intel processors,
virtualisation is fairly easy, and there are several solutions.
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Franjo Žilić - 24 Aug 2007 15:04 GMT
> Franjo ?ili? <franjo.zilic@ri.t-com.hr> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The point about the new Macs is that, because they use Intel processors,
> virtualisation is fairly easy, and there are several solutions.

virtual pc i used with powerpc only... new macs use alternative
virtualisation, like parallels and fusion....
Gregory Weston - 24 Aug 2007 18:32 GMT
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> only that os had to be ported, but every application, driver also had to
> be ported... and that made power pc version of nt fail...

Mostly what made the PPC version of NT fail was that IBM stopped paying
Microsoft to maintain it. Ditto the MIPS build.
Bob Harris - 25 Aug 2007 00:22 GMT
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Mostly what made the PPC version of NT fail was that IBM stopped paying
> Microsoft to maintain it. Ditto the MIPS build.

The same with Alpha, although they hung on longer.   And it was
worse than just paying Microsoft, the member companies had to
provide engineers to to the porting.  The member companies had to
work with the 3rd parties to get things ported.  Microsoft
wouldn't even port all of its user apps.

                                       Bob Harris
 
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