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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / June 2007PowerBook as a DeskTop
FYI... I use my PowerBook as a DeskTop machine, I am running OS X now from an external FireWire drive and with an external monitor, and I am very happy with it. The PB is much cooler and the speed is just fine. I also use this @reboot /usr/sbin/diskutil unmount "/Volumes/Macintosh HD" in my crontab. /PaulN User-Agent: Unison/1.7.7 > I use my PowerBook as a DeskTop machine, I am running OS X now from an > external FireWire drive and with an external monitor, and I am very happy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > in my crontab. Why? Rebooting will unmount all shared volumes automatically.  SignatureJR > User-Agent: Unison/1.7.7 > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Why? Rebooting will unmount all shared volumes automatically. I don't suppose that "/Volumes/Macintosh HD" is a shared volume. I gather that the OP is unmounting his internal HD so that it will spin down and not generate heat. Mark Geary SignatureDon't forget to stop and eat the roses. User-Agent: Unison/1.7.9 >> User-Agent: Unison/1.7.7 >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > gather that the OP is unmounting his internal HD so that it will spin > down and not generate heat. Well all you have to do to get a drive to spin down is set System Preferences > Energy Saver > Sleep > Put hard disks to sleep when possible. So he must be getting something else out of it. Maybe he just never wants to see the internal drive? SignatureJR >> I don't suppose that "/Volumes/Macintosh HD" is a shared volume. I >> gather that the OP is unmounting his internal HD so that it will spin [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > possible. So he must be getting something else out of it. Maybe he > just never wants to see the internal drive? Trouble with that is, the bloody things spin up again when you launch certain things, and cause the spinning beach ball. In comp.sys.mac.portables Jolly Roger <jollyroger@r.e.m.o.v.e.pobox.com> wrote: > User-Agent: Unison/1.7.9 > >> User-Agent: Unison/1.7.7 > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > gather that the OP is unmounting his internal HD so that it will spin > > down and not generate heat. > Well all you have to do to get a drive to spin down is set System > Preferences > Energy Saver > Sleep > Put hard disks to sleep when > possible. So he must be getting something else out of it. Maybe he > just never wants to see the internal drive? Both guesses are accurate. However, I don't want my external disk with OS X on it to sleep ever. I just want the internal disk to spin down and be invisible. /PaulN User-Agent: Unison/1.7.9 > In comp.sys.mac.portables Jolly Roger <jollyroger@r.e.m.o.v.e.pobox.com> wrote: >> User-Agent: Unison/1.7.9 [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > However, I don't want my external disk with OS X on it to sleep ever. I just > want the internal disk to spin down and be invisible. Mac OS X doesn't put external Firewire/USB drives to sleep, in my experience. SignatureJR > User-Agent: Unison/1.7.9 > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Mac OS X doesn't put external Firewire/USB drives to sleep, in my experience. Must depend on the interface. My FireWire drives from OWC do sleep when idle. SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF In comp.sys.mac.portables Tom Stiller <tomstiller@comcast.net> wrote: > Must depend on the interface. My FireWire drives from OWC do sleep when > idle. I have several WD and Seagate FW drives which go to sleep despite the Energy Saver settings. The FAQ at the manufacturer's site explains it. However, these drives do not go to sleep when used as start up drives. Very interesting. /PaulN In comp.sys.mac.portables Mark Geary <geary@fnord.io.com> wrote: > > User-Agent: Unison/1.7.7 > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Why? Rebooting will unmount all shared volumes automatically. > I don't suppose that "/Volumes/Macintosh HD" is a shared volume. I > gather that the OP is unmounting his internal HD so that it will spin > down and not generate heat. Yes, your guess is 100% accurate. /PaulN In comp.sys.mac.portables Jolly Roger <jollyroger@r.e.m.o.v.e.pobox.com> wrote: > > @reboot /usr/sbin/diskutil unmount "/Volumes/Macintosh HD" > Why? Rebooting will unmount all shared volumes automatically. When you reboot, the internal drive mounts automatically. Try it. I don't use it and I don't want it mounted. /PaulN > I use my PowerBook as a DeskTop machine, I am running OS X now from an > external FireWire drive and with an external monitor, and I am very happy > with it. The PB is much cooler and the speed is just fine. I know this post is kind of old, but I'm bored tonight. I mostly use my macbook as a desktop machine. It's sitting here closed, running on an external monitor and bluetooth keyboard and mouse. But the problem I see with your setup there is, you would essentially never be able to take the laptop portable. I don't think I'd want to limit myself like that. Just my two cents. If you indeed *never* wanted to take the laptop portable, you'd be better off with a non-laptop machine... unless of course there is a lack of funds. Signature-=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org In comp.sys.mac.portables Elden Fenison <usenet@moondog.org.invalid> wrote: > > I use my PowerBook as a DeskTop machine, I am running OS X now from an > > external FireWire drive and with an external monitor, and I am very happy > > with it. The PB is much cooler and the speed is just fine. > I know this post is kind of old, but I'm bored tonight. > I mostly use my macbook as a desktop machine. It's sitting here closed, > running on an external monitor and bluetooth keyboard and mouse. But [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > take the laptop portable, you'd be better off with a non-laptop > machine... unless of course there is a lack of funds. The problem of your argument is that you use your way of thinking and not mine. From my point of view, this is the perfect solution. I see no need to explain my point since others will disagree anyway. In addition, both your point and my point are perfectly OK; we just have different ideas and needs. Although, this is just hypothetical and doesn't apply to my case, but isn't it easier to rescue a LapTop from a burning house than a DeskTop? /PaulN [am I bored too?] > Although, this is just hypothetical and doesn't apply to my case, but isn't it > easier to rescue a LapTop from a burning house than a DeskTop? Avoid setting house afire... (c: > Although, this is just hypothetical and doesn't apply to my case, but isn't it > easier to rescue a LapTop from a burning house than a DeskTop? Probably, but you won't see me worrying too much about either one if things are up in flames. I'll be much more concerned about getting my family / pets out alive and maybe sentimental things like photo albums etc. My data is backed up off-site, so I'm not too worried about that, and insurance covers the hardware and other replaceable stuff. SignatureJR > The problem of your argument is that you use your way of thinking and not > mine. From my point of view, this is the perfect solution. I see no need to > explain my point since others will disagree anyway. In addition, both your > point and my point are perfectly OK; we just have different ideas and needs. I wasn't intending to be critical of your logic. Just trying to better understand it. I used to have a Mac mini that I ran off of an external firewire boot drive. Running off the external drive increased the machine's performance significantly... probably because the internal drive was 4200RPM or something. Signature-=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org In comp.sys.mac.portables Elden Fenison <usenet@moondog.org.invalid> wrote: > I wasn't intending to be critical of your logic. Just trying to better > understand it. Please respond me privately with your real e-mail and then I will explain. /PaaulN > In comp.sys.mac.portables Elden Fenison <usenet@moondog.org.invalid> wrote: > > I wasn't intending to be critical of your logic. Just trying to better > > understand it. > > Please respond me privately with your real e-mail and then I will > explain. /PaaulN Gee. Something so profound and enlightening that you are unable to share it with the Great Unwashed because we might use it for evil instead of good? In article <kurtullman-7C2A84.13510910062007@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx >, > > In comp.sys.mac.portables Elden Fenison <usenet@moondog.org.invalid> wrote: > > > I wasn't intending to be critical of your logic. Just trying to better [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > share it with the Great Unwashed because we might use it for evil > instead of good? Forgot the smiley face at end. Ooops. Excuse me while I put on my flame retardant undies... > Please respond me privately with your real e-mail and then I will > explain. Well, my real email address is posted at the bottom of my webpage below. But you don't have any need to explain really. I was just sitting here with nothing better to do than to ponder the ramifications of someone else's computer setup. I know a guy who broke his laptop screen severely. He continued to use the G4 PB with an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse for years. In his situation, the machine could never go portable anyway and the screen was too expensive to have fixed. He's a geek though, he eventually ended up buying an old screen from a dead laptop, taking apart his screen and repairing it himself. Signature-=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org |
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