Upgrading from Tiger 10.4 to 10.4.9

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unamerican - 22 Apr 2007 10:38 GMT

i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
the hd.

i want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD

will i be able to update to 10.4.9 afterwards ?

if so how ?

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Harald Hanche-Olsen - 22 Apr 2007 11:09 GMT

+ unamerican <sammac1967@gmail.com>:

| i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
| the hd.
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|
| if so how ?

If you have broadband internet access, no problem.
Just run software update after installing.
If you don't have broadband, it's a bit more iffy.
Maybe your best bet is going somewhere you do,
unless you live really far out in the sticks.

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J.J. O'Shea - 22 Apr 2007 11:12 GMT

> i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
> the hd.
>
> i want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD
>
> will i be able to update to 10.4.9 afterwards ?

yes.

> if so how ?

1 turn on Mac. Make sure Mac can connect over the Internet.

2 select Apple menu.

3 select 'Software Update'.

4 let Software Update run. This will download all updates available at Apple
for 10.4.

5 reboot Mac.

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Dave Seaman - 22 Apr 2007 13:27 GMT

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:12:40 -0400, J.J O'Shea wrote:

>> i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
>> the hd.
>>
>> i want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD
>>
>> will i be able to update to 10.4.9 afterwards ?

> yes.

>> if so how ?

> 1 turn on Mac. Make sure Mac can connect over the Internet.

> 2 select Apple menu.

> 3 select 'Software Update'.

> 4 let Software Update run. This will download all updates available at Apple
> for 10.4.

> 5 reboot Mac.

It may be that you don't even need steps 2 and 3. In similar situations,
I have seen it happen that Software Update came up automatically within
seconds after I booted with a freshly installed 10.4 system.

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Bill Robbins - 22 Apr 2007 22:17 GMT

> i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
> the hd.
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>
> if so how ?

I prefer the security of making such upgrades from my hard drive rather
than directly off the internet. This doesn't eliminate the need for a
fast broadband connection as you will need to download the VERY large
Combo 10.4.9 upgrade file. If no broadband, perhaps you have a mate who
can download it and burn it to CD for you. However you do it, make sure
you get the Combo file not the much smaller delta upgrade file, which
upgrades only from 10.4.8. The advantage of doing it this way is that
if something goes wrong and you have to start over or you ever have to
install Tiger again, you'll already have the upgrade.

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unamerican - 23 Apr 2007 07:18 GMT

> I prefer the security of making such upgrades from my hard drive rather
> than directly off the internet. This doesn't eliminate the need for a
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> if something goes wrong and you have to start over or you ever have to
> install Tiger again, you'll already have the upgrade.

thanks, the combo file is only 72 mb so whould be a problem as ive got
bb.

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David Empson - 23 Apr 2007 08:20 GMT

> > I prefer the security of making such upgrades from my hard drive rather
> > than directly off the internet. This doesn't eliminate the need for a
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> thanks, the combo file is only 72 mb so whould be a problem as ive got
> bb.

You're looking at the wrong file. The 72 MB file is the incremental
update for PowerPC Macs (which will take you from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9).

The Mac OS X 10.4.9 Combo Update for PowerPC Macs is 163 MB.

That isn't the only file you need. There will also be several updates
for Java, QuickTime and various applications, plus security updates. In
total, you will probably need to download almost 500 MB.

Using Software Update is the easiest solution, if you have a broadband
connection. Just make sure you run it again after each restart, as it
may find further updates that had a prerequisite.

It is even worse for Intel Macs - the 10.4.9 combo update is 310 MB.

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Gregory Weston - 23 Apr 2007 11:53 GMT

> > thanks, the combo file is only 72 mb so whould be a problem as ive got
> > bb.
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> for Java, QuickTime and various applications, plus security updates. In
> total, you will probably need to download almost 500 MB.

FWIW, the only OS security update(s) necessary should be those that came
out between the release of 10.4.9 and whenever the OP gets around to
doing this. And probably only one each for any given ancillary
technology. You wouldn't need to install 3 different updates to
QuickTime, say; just the last one.

> It is even worse for Intel Macs - the 10.4.9 combo update is 310 MB.

The joy of universality.

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David Empson - 23 Apr 2007 14:55 GMT

> > > thanks, the combo file is only 72 mb so whould be a problem as ive got
> > > bb.
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> technology. You wouldn't need to install 3 different updates to
> QuickTime, say; just the last one.

There are three Java updates which must be installed sequentially (each
about 40 to 50 MB, with later ones not offered by Software Update until
the previous one has been installed). I'd also expect one update each
for QuickTime and iTunes, and at least one Security Update. That's 350
MB so far, not counting other ancillary technology or applications which
might need updates.

I haven't done a full install and update of 10.4 recently, but with 10.3
updating to 10.3.9 recently I recall seeing updates for iChat, Safari,
more than one Airport update, and several security updates (one big one
and a few small ones).

> > It is even worse for Intel Macs - the 10.4.9 combo update is 310 MB.
>
> The joy of universality.

Indeed. Everyone gets to enjoy big updates like this once Leopard is
released.

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Gregory Weston - 23 Apr 2007 16:51 GMT

> > > It is even worse for Intel Macs - the 10.4.9 combo update is 310 MB.
> >
> > The joy of universality.
>
> Indeed. Everyone gets to enjoy big updates like this once Leopard is
> released.

Presuming Apple doesn't strip the install on PPC machines. The reason
the x86 updates are big is to support apps running under Rosetta.
There's no rationale by which the x86 code needs to stick around on a
PPC box, though, except trivial time savings during the initial install.

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Paul Nevai - 23 Apr 2007 15:35 GMT

> i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on the hd.

> i want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD

> will i be able to update to 10.4.9 afterwards ?

> if so how ?

Yes. Via the internet. Since you are asking such an elementary question,
clearly you are not an expert. So just install 10.4 and connect your Mac to
the internet and then just wait till it tells you about the upgrade. It will
tell you sooner or later. If you do the Apple registration process, it might
tell you about the update immediately aftwerwards.

/PaulN

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unamerican - 23 Apr 2007 21:54 GMT

> > i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on the hd.
> > i want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD
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> Yes. Via the internet. Since you are asking such an elementary question,
> clearly you are not an expert.

ive only owned a mac about a week but ive sussed how to bootleg copies
of tiger via bitlord.

anyone wanting a free copy just email me.

small charge for post and packing in the uk.

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Mike Rosenberg - 23 Apr 2007 22:14 GMT

> ive only owned a mac about a week but ive sussed how to bootleg copies
> of tiger via bitlord.

Now I'm sorry I helped you with the PMU reset. Seriously.

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Paul Nevai - 24 Apr 2007 00:10 GMT

> ive only owned a mac about a week but ive sussed how to bootleg copies of
> tiger via bitlord. anyone wanting a free copy just email me. small charge
> for post and packing in the uk.

Oops. Had I known this, I wouldn't have helped you. /PaulN

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David Empson - 24 Apr 2007 01:08 GMT

> > > i have a powerbook g4 with a tiger 10.4 DVD and 10.4.9 installed on
> > > i the hd. want to wipe it and re-install tiger 10.4 from the DVD
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>
> small charge for post and packing in the uk.

Good luck with any problems you might have with your Mac in future.

By advocating piracy, you've alienated the majority of the helpful
people here (including me), who have paid for the software that you are
stealing and offering to other people.

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