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iMac G5 monitor vs 20-inch Cinema Display

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cvblr - 02 Dec 2006 03:32 GMT
Question about the two monitors: Although the iMac monitor looks
different from the Apple 20-inch Cinema Display, are they basically the
same monitor inside?
RobertB - 17 Dec 2006 21:20 GMT
> Question about the two monitors: Although the iMac monitor looks
> different from the Apple 20-inch Cinema Display, are they basically the
> same monitor inside?

Good question. I have a new, 20" iMac and the display is splendid. I'm
contemplating getting an external 20" for the extended desktop feature,
but not sure which brand to get. The 20" Dell widescreen is considerably
less expensive than the Apple monitor.
Clever Monkey - 18 Dec 2006 16:16 GMT
>> Question about the two monitors: Although the iMac monitor looks
>> different from the Apple 20-inch Cinema Display, are they basically the
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> but not sure which brand to get. The 20" Dell widescreen is considerably
> less expensive than the Apple monitor.

I bought a cheaper Dell 19in. LCD panel (with DVI in) and replaced it
with a 20in. Apple monitor within months.  I figured that most of the
manufacturers sourced parts from similar vendors, so the differences
would be minimal.

The Apple monitor was just so much brighter faster and truer than the
Dell.  I didn't think I would notice, but there you have it.  A
side-by-side comparison made it obvious which monitor was better.  Text
was crisper and everything was faster without pixel bleed and ghosting.
 I can actually play games.

Now, Dell (I'm sure) continues to improve, and the various sizes and
models might source different parts inside.  So one of the more recent
Dell monitors might be quite nice.  I'd purchase with an easy option to
return it, however.  At $799CDN the Apple 20-inch is an excellent deal.
 I might get another for myself this year.
RobertB - 19 Dec 2006 02:37 GMT
> >> Question about the two monitors: Although the iMac monitor looks
> >> different from the Apple 20-inch Cinema Display, are they basically the
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> return it, however.  At $799CDN the Apple 20-inch is an excellent deal.
>   I might get another for myself this year.

I think it's US$ 699 now. But that's interesting. Maybe you do get what
you pay for?
Xavier Llobet - 19 Dec 2006 08:21 GMT
> I bought a cheaper Dell 19in. LCD panel (with DVI in) and replaced it
> with a 20in. Apple monitor within months.  I figured that most of the
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> return it, however.  At $799CDN the Apple 20-inch is an excellent deal.
>   I might get another for myself this year.

I was thinking of buying the 20" Dell 2007FP. At $450, it looks a good
buy. But you got me worried about pixel bleeding and ghosting. Of course
it is not a fast monitor (16ms), but Apple's 20" isn't either (14ms).
Luminosity is the same, and contrast is also similar (800:1 for Dell,
700:1 for Apple). Thus I had decided for Dell.

Anybody has experience of both?

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RobertB - 19 Dec 2006 18:24 GMT
> > I bought a cheaper Dell 19in. LCD panel (with DVI in) and replaced it
> > with a 20in. Apple monitor within months.  I figured that most of the
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>
> Anybody has experience of both?

So how does it look and feel?
Xavier Llobet - 20 Dec 2006 06:58 GMT
[...]
> > I was thinking of buying the 20" Dell 2007FP. At $450, it looks a good
> > buy. But you got me worried about pixel bleeding and ghosting. Of course
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>
> So how does it look and feel?

I like the looks of both. I have not been able to have a good session
(let's say half an hour of typical work) with any. That's why I was
asking for opinions.

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John Albert - 20 Dec 2006 15:12 GMT
Re the posting:
<< I was thinking of buying the 20" Dell 2007FP. At $450, it looks a good
buy. But you got me worried about pixel bleeding and ghosting. Of course  it
is not a fast monitor (16ms), but Apple's 20" isn't either (14ms).  Luminosity
is the same, and contrast is also similar (800:1 for Dell,  700:1 for Apple).
Thus I had decided for Dell. >>

I've been using a Dell 1905FP 19" LCD with a g4 MDD for a couple of years now,
it's been a great monitor, no problems at all, and the equal of any
Apple-labeled monitor I've seen.

I will qualify these remarks by saying I don't do video on it - just audio and
other relatively "static" tasks.

There is one area to be careful about with the current Dell lineup. I think a
good portion of their monitors now are "6-bit" (pixel depth) instead of a full
8-bits. Some, but not all. I have read from others (but not seen for myself)
that this makes a difference in the overall quality of the image.

- John
Xavier Llobet - 21 Dec 2006 08:30 GMT
> Re the posting:
> << I was thinking of buying the 20" Dell 2007FP. At $450, it looks a good
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>
> - John

You may be into something... The specifications for this monitor do NOT
mention the number of colors. For 8-bit depth, it's (2^8)^3=16.7 million,
and for 6-bit it should be (2^6)^3=262'144 colors.

I'll ask them.

_x.

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nosredna1 - 19 Dec 2006 20:39 GMT
I'm the originator of this thread. I got the 20-inch ACD a few days
after I posted and I absolutely love it. However, today I was cleaning
it and noticed a smudge in the middle of the screen that wouldn't come
off. Then I realized that it's *inside* the screen. I didn't notice it
when I first got it because it doesn't show when the screen is on, with
an image on it. Should I take it back to Apple for an exchange?
 
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