> SO I have plugged the keyboard in and the mouse into the keyboard. The
> monitor, a 19" multisynch is plugged into the adapter. I plugged a mains
> lead in and pressed the button on the front. It went green, fans
> started, disk(s) could be heard whirring. The CD tray now opens. But
> that is it.. So I changed the dip switches to the "640x480" settings and
> tried again. No change.
The CD tray opened on its own??

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Palindr?me <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
> I now have the Apple Mac 966 that I asked for advice about, here, on 16
> Aug. It came with an adapter with a standard hi density PC monitor
> socket and a row of switches. So that problem disappeared.
I don't know where this "966" model name came from.
Judging from what you said the previous post, the correct description
for your computer is a "Power Macintosh 9600/350", which should be
written on a label on the front of it.
The "350" part refers to the CPU speed, and as the CPU is on a
daughterboard it is possible that the computer might have been upgraded
to a faster CPU at some point (you could get various G3 and possibly
even G4 processor upgrades for models of that ilk).
(Incidentally, I have an 8600/250, which looks almost identical to the
9600 externally but has some different features.)
> SO I have plugged the keyboard in and the mouse into the keyboard. The
> monitor, a 19" multisynch is plugged into the adapter. I plugged a mains
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> never even see one running before, let alone seen what it should do when
> you start it..My ept is totally in.
Nobody else seems to have ventured a useful answer yet, so here goes...
When you power on a Mac, one of the first things that should happen is
you hear a "startup chime". The exact sound varies between models, but
for a 9600 it is a multi-tone chord which goes on for about a second.
If the machine contains a lot of RAM, the startup chime might be delayed
for a few seconds due to the RAM test.
If you can't hear this chime after waiting several seconds, the computer
probably isn't starting up correctly. There could be all sorts of
reasons for this.
Another possible explanation for lack of startup chime is that the
speaker isn't connected, or the nonvolatile setting for the system
volume is set to mute the speaker, or there is something plugged into
the audio output, which automatically mutes the speaker, and the
external sound output isn't working properly (e.g. some monitors with
built-in speakers don't output any sound until the monitor powers on).
It might fail to start up if it doesn't think there is a monitor
connected.
If the computer has found a serious fault during its startup test, it
might play a "death chime" sound, which is sort of like breaking glass.
After the startup chime, the video signal starts to be generated. A
monitor which wakes up when it gets a video signal should activate at
this point.
The video display normally starts out showing a grey background while
the Mac searches for a startup volume. If a valid startup volume is
found, it should show a "happy Mac" icon in the middle of the screen. If
the boot fails, the happy Mac might change to a disk icon with a cross
through it. If no startup volume can be found, the computer will display
a disk icon with a flashing question mark.
Since you haven't got as far as video output, that is the first item to
tackle, but at this point it is difficult to tell whether the Mac is
even starting up (beyond powering the fans, power light, CD-ROM drive
and hard drive).
> Any thoughts? all I could think of doing is open it up and cheack that
> all the plugs and sockets, etc, are nicely seated and nothing ahs jarred
> loose in transit. But it doesn't help not knowing whether it should work
> with this particular monitor, or not. It is a Viewsonic G90f+
Assuming the monitor supports standard VGA mode (640x480, 60 Hz), it
should work as long as you have configured the adapter correctly.
The 9600 uses a video card installed in a PCI slot, so its behaviour
might be somewhat different to the built-in video in other Mac models.
I'm more familiar with built-in video on machines of this era.
Probably the best place to start would be to open up the machine and try
to identify what video card it is using. The standard card supplied with
the 9600 was apparently an IX Micro Twin Turbo.
If there are any other PCI cards in there, it might be a good idea to
remove them in case they are preventing the computer from starting up
(e.g. due to some missing external component, or a hardware fault).
If it still won't start up with just the video card in the PCI slots,
then you might like to try removing most of the RAM: take it down to a
single DIMM in the A1 slot, which is likely to be one of the ones
originally supplied by Apple with the machine.
You can run the 9600 with any mixture of RAM sizes in any slots - Macs
generally have a very user-friendly memory controller. For the 9600
there is a performance benefit in having matching pairs in the
corresponding A and B slots of the same number.
> Sorry to have to ask such stoopid questions..
You have to start somewhere.

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Bill - 23 Aug 2006 18:32 GMT
> Palindr?me <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
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>
> You have to start somewhere.
I'll add one more thing.
Macs of this vintage (and maybe later) have something called Parameter
Ram, abbreviated PRAM. This stores some basic information that the
computer needs to start up properly. The PRAM is volatile, that is, the
values can be changed. It is kept alive by a small dry cell battery when
the computer is not powered on. After a while (a few years, usually)
that battery goes dead, and the PRAM will lose it settings. When that
happens, the machine does not know how to start up.
So you might try replacing the PRAM battery. It is a specially shaped
battery designed for the purpose. Various places including Radio Shack
sell them, cost about $10 to $15. Open the case and look on the mother
board. You will see a little plastic holder with a small cylindrical
battery in it. It is about the diameter of a AA battery, but shorter and
maybe a little fatter. Use a small screwdriver to pop the plastice cover
off the battery holder, and remove the battery. Take it to Radio Shack
and get a replacement. Put in the replacement and put the cover back on
the battery holder, close up the case, and try again to start it up.
You may need to reset the PRAM. Hold down the key combination
Command-Control-P-R during the startup, until you hear several
repetitions of the startup chime, then release the keys. The PRAM will
now be set to its original factory settings, and if all else is OK, the
machine should start up.

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Bill Collins
You - 23 Aug 2006 18:39 GMT
> I don't know where this "966" model name came from.
>
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> (Incidentally, I have an 8600/250, which looks almost identical to the
> 9600 externally but has some different features.)
Just a Note here, 8600's have 3 less PCI slots....and there are TWO
versions of the x600 Motherboards, and they ARE Mutually Exclusive
as to what CPU Daughtercards can be used in them. Version 1 has the
Cache on the Motherboard, and version 2 has the cache on the CPU
Daughtercard. CPU Daughtercards are NOT interchangeable between
different versions of the motherboard. All 300 and 350Mhz CPU
Daughtercards are version 2 boards.
Palindr☻me - 23 Aug 2006 19:12 GMT
>>I don't know where this "966" model name came from.
>>
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> different versions of the motherboard. All 300 and 350Mhz CPU
> Daughtercards are version 2 boards.
Many thanks Bill and You and a special thanks to David!
I took the side off, unhinged the power supply part to get at the
mobo... Heavens, what a lot of RAM sockets..
Anyhow, reseated everything and, bingo, got a "tarrah" or something when
I pressed the button.. So reseated everything again and
ITS WORKING!!!
As in, it has a desktop and the clock is changing and it has icons.
I can now read books and work out hwo to configure the operating system,
set up network connection(s), printers, etc..(lol, I will probably be
back...)
The big problem I had was, never having seen one, I didn't know if there
was a particular way of starting one, other than pressing the button.
So, when nothing happened, assumed it was me and not the machine.
(Memories of toggling in the bootstrap code on a PDP sprang to mind..)
I did wonder if there was something like the <ctr><alt><del> that
Microsoft likes to use - "Oh, an Apple Mac, every idiot knows you press
the power button whilst holding down the s key, to get it to start..
Anyway, apparently up and running. Quite exciting. So very much to learn
and have fun with.
Thanks Again!
Sue
David Empson - 23 Aug 2006 22:13 GMT
Palindr?me <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
> Many thanks Bill and You and a special thanks to David!
>
> I took the side off, unhinged the power supply part to get at the
> mobo... Heavens, what a lot of RAM sockets..
Yep, 12 of them in a 9600. Maximum RAM capacity is 1.5 GB, using 5 volt
"Fast Page Mode" 168-pin DIMMs. (You can apparently put EDO DIMMs in
there but they won't improve performance. I never tried.)
> Anyhow, reseated everything and, bingo, got a "tarrah" or something when
> I pressed the button.. So reseated everything again and
>
> ITS WORKING!!!
Excellent.
> The big problem I had was, never having seen one, I didn't know if there
> was a particular way of starting one, other than pressing the button.
> So, when nothing happened, assumed it was me and not the machine.
The most common way of starting up the computer is to press the power
key in the top right corner of the keyboard (detached key with a
triangle logo on it). The power button on the front of the case can also
be used (as you discovered), but it is usually easier to reach the
keyboard.
The correct way to shut down the computer is to use the "Shut Down"
command under the Special menu in Finder.
(Finder is the equivalent of the Explorer under Windows - it implements
the dekstop background and icon-based file management.)
You can also shut down by pressing the power key on the keyboard, which
brings up a dialog box which asks whether you want to sleep, shut down
or restart (or cancel the dialog because you pressed the key by
mistake). The Restart and Sleep commands are also available in Finder's
Special menu.

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