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Henry Helvie - 27 Apr 2006 20:27 GMT
Will a movie burned on a dual layer DVD using iDVD be playable on most
DVD players?
Garner Miller - 27 Apr 2006 20:39 GMT
In article
<hhelvie-CB232B.15274227042006@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com>, Henry
Helvie <hhelvie@notyahoo.com> wrote:

> Will a movie burned on a dual layer DVD using iDVD be playable on most
> DVD players?

Most players?  Probably not, but not because of iDVD.  The dual-layer
blanks are simply not as compatible with home DVD players.  (Just as
DVD+R is less compatible than DVD-R, though that's becoming less of an
issue on newer players.)

Here's one of many reports on the dual-layer topic:

http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=3535

You might try buying a small package of them to see if they play on
your own player.  But for anything I'm going to be sending to someone
else, I'd still use a single-layer DVD-R for the best compatibility.

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spat - 28 Apr 2006 03:37 GMT
On 4/27/06 2:39 PM, in article 270420061539391284%garner@netstreet.net,

> In article
> <hhelvie-CB232B.15274227042006@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com>, Henry
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> your own player.  But for anything I'm going to be sending to someone
> else, I'd still use a single-layer DVD-R for the best compatibility.

How does Dual Layer work?  Does it record two layers of data on one side?
Somehow I thought it simply recorded on both sides of recordable DL DVDs.
Dopey me.
Garner Miller - 28 Apr 2006 04:04 GMT
> How does Dual Layer work?  Does it record two layers of data on one side?
> Somehow I thought it simply recorded on both sides of recordable DL DVDs.
> Dopey me.

Most pressed DVDs you buy are dual-layer -- it means you don't have to
flip your movie over halfway through, as you did with the original
laserdiscs.  I have exactly one DVD in my collection -- GoodFellas --
that's dual-sided like that, but they're very rare, and a pain in the
neck.  All my others are dual-layer, or small enough where a single
layer holds everything.

Basically, a dual-layer disc has two layers of recorded material, and
the reflective layer closest to the laser is semi-transparent.  By
adjusting the laser, the DVD player can shift its focus between the two
layers, and see right through the first layer to the second.  Very
neat.

But how can you make a *recordable* DVD with another layer, and not
melt through the intervening layer in the process?  I have no idea;
it's some amazing engineering, that's all I can say.  Here's a very
technical article that discusses it:

http://www.burnworld.com/howto/articles/intro-to-dual-layer.htm

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spat - 28 Apr 2006 06:18 GMT
On 4/27/06 10:04 PM, in article 270420062304217658%garner@netstreet.net,

>> How does Dual Layer work?  Does it record two layers of data on one side?
>> Somehow I thought it simply recorded on both sides of recordable DL DVDs.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> http://www.burnworld.com/howto/articles/intro-to-dual-layer.htm

Wow, cool tech.  Thanks for explaining it to me.
Bob Nielsen - 27 Apr 2006 20:40 GMT
> Will a movie burned on a dual layer DVD using iDVD be playable on most
> DVD players?

I suspect so, since many commercial movie DVDs are dual layer.  I burnt
one using Toast Titanium and my Lite-On DVD recorder played it just fine
(I wish that one would burn dual layer, however).
David C. - 27 Apr 2006 20:58 GMT
> I suspect so, since many commercial movie DVDs are dual layer.

All video players can refocus the lens onto two layers.  But there's a
world of difference between a stamped DL disc and a recordable one.

> I burnt one using Toast Titanium and my Lite-On DVD recorder played it
> just fine (I wish that one would burn dual layer, however).

I would expect DVD recorders to do a better job of reading recordable
media, simply because they have to be able to read their own creations.

I agree with the previous poster.  Use single-layer, unless you really
have so much content that it won't fit on anything else.  In addition to
greater compatibility, the media will cost less.

-- David
 
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