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G4 Boot Problem

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mac user - 21 Feb 2006 04:08 GMT
Hi Folks,

Symptom

The Power Mac G4 computer screen is black. The boot tone is not
present, the drive does not operate, the fan is not running, and LED is
only lit when holding the power on button.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Martin
Dave Stanton - 21 Feb 2006 05:18 GMT
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Try here
http://www.whoopis.com/computer_repair/

They have service manuals for most macs to dl.

HTH

Dave
spudnuty - 21 Feb 2006 15:09 GMT
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Which G4 is it? There are also service manuals here for free:
http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/manuals.html\
Have you checked the PRAM battery? Zapped the PRAM then an open
firmware reset? PMU reset?
Richard
morenuf - 21 Feb 2006 23:08 GMT
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Knowing the G4 model will help make suggestions.

At least try:

(ground yourself before mucking about inside the case by touching the
metal power supply with unit still plugged in).

Check all motherboard connections (unplug & plug in again all cables)
RAM
PCI cards
Hard drive cables

Check the battery & replace if necessary (should read 3.6 volts)
(battery available online OWC about $5, or Radio Shack about $10)
Reset PMU (CUDA on older models) a button near the battery
Press the PMU ONCE (too many presses leaves it in corrupt state and can
prematurely drain even a new battery in day or two instead of 4--5
years).
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You can indeed have hardware problems but the above may fix it without
additional expensive costs.

No video is often a PMU (power management unit = controls many boot time
startup features) problem. Some macs won't display video or even start
with a bad PRAM battery. PRAM battery generally good for 3-5 years.

Good luck.

Morenuf
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daystartech - 22 Feb 2006 12:13 GMT
>The Power Mac G4 computer screen is black.
>The boot tone is not present

Were their any symptoms or catalysts (like electrical storms) before
the problem?

We've seen this primarily due to a week power supply, corrupt PMU
(which a reset fixes), bad RAM, bad PCI card or bad CPU card.

First try a motherboard reset. There is a small button on earlier
PowerMac G4s in the right rear. it is normally by the small motherboard
battery. Once pressed, it should reboot.

You can also do a hard reset by removing the motherboard battery for a
few minutes and hitting the rest button. On most systems, the reset
(CUDA on early models, PMU on later) button is found next to the
motherboard battery.

Although a dead MB battery will create the symptom, on G4's you can
remove and hit the reset to restart. The battery itself shold read
3.6xx volts.Unlike the MB battery in a PowerBook, it is not
rechargeable.

Gary Dailey
http://daystar-tech.com
 
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