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mjwilco@yahoo.com - 26 Dec 2005 14:53 GMT
The Apple Support page
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300082 says that I
should use matching RAM modules in my machine to get the best speed. I
currently have a single 512 MB module that came with the system, and
I'd like to add another. I'm looking at:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=58682
9&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

since it's so cheap. Will this memory work at 128-bit with the
preinstalled one?

Thanks.
David C. - 26 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT
> The Apple Support page
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300082 says that I
> should use matching RAM modules in my machine to get the best speed.

Correct.

> I currently have a single 512 MB module that came with the system, and
> I'd like to add another. I'm looking at:
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=58682
9&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

> since it's so cheap. Will this memory work at 128-bit with the
> preinstalled one?

If it's the same size and type as the one you currently have, there
shouldn't be a problem.  Be sure you install it into the correct RAM
socket in order to get the speed-boost.  (Each socket in one bank has a
matching socket in the other bank.)  Your owner's manual should tell you
all about this.

-- David
mjwilco@yahoo.com - 26 Dec 2005 22:56 GMT
> If it's the same size and type as the one you currently have, there
> shouldn't be a problem.

That sounds hopeful. What exactly do you mean by "type"? Are you
refering to the fact that it's PC3200 DDR?

> Be sure you install it into the correct RAM socket in order to get the speed-boost.
> (Each socket in one bank has a matching socket in the other bank.)  Your owner's manual
> should tell you all about this.

I do plan to follow the owner's manual, but I'm not sure I understand
you. I've looked inside the computer already, and there seems to be
only one place to put a new memory stick. Just where else would it go?

And on a side note, is there any way to confirm that the new module is
operating at 128 bits?

Thanks very much for the help.
David C. - 27 Dec 2005 19:23 GMT
>> If it's the same size and type as the one you currently have, there
>> shouldn't be a problem.
>
> That sounds hopeful. What exactly do you mean by "type"? Are you
> refering to the fact that it's PC3200 DDR?

That's part of it.  But CAS latencies should also match.  If they don't,
the system will (I think) use the lowest-common-denominator parameters
for both of them.

Depending on what brand Apple pre-installed, you may find this
conveniently printed on a sticker on the DIMM.  (I know Micron/Crucial
uses such stickers.)  Otherwise, the Apple System Profiler should tell
you what you need.

> I do plan to follow the owner's manual, but I'm not sure I understand
> you. I've looked inside the computer already, and there seems to be
> only one place to put a new memory stick. Just where else would it go?

I thought you were using a PowerMac.  If so, there should be 8 DIMM
sockets in two banks.  The sockets are paired - each socket in one bank
has a matching socket in the other bank.  When installing matched pairs,
you want to make sure the paired sockets are used.

If I misunderstood and you're really using an iMac, then this isn't a
concern.  You only have two sockets (or only one if you have the most
recent model iMac.)

> And on a side note, is there any way to confirm that the new module is
> operating at 128 bits?

Don't know.  Perhaps the System Profiler will tell you.

-- David
mjwilco@yahoo.com - 28 Dec 2005 19:22 GMT
> But CAS latencies should also match.

The sticker said CL 3, so I imagine that referes to CAS latencies. In
that case, my prospective module would work.

> If I misunderstood and you're really using an iMac, then this isn't a
> concern.  You only have two sockets (or only one if you have the most
> recent model iMac.)

I am using an iMac, so that's cleared up. Do the newest iMacs really
only have one?

> > And on a side note, is there any way to confirm that the new module is
> > operating at 128 bits?

> Don't know.  Perhaps the System Profiler will tell you.

I didn't see it in there, but I'll keep poking around. Thanks very much
for the help.
David C. - 02 Jan 2006 00:54 GMT
>> But CAS latencies should also match.
>
> The sticker said CL 3, so I imagine that referes to CAS latencies. In
> that case, my prospective module would work.

This means that if your second DIMM is CL=2, you either won't get
interleaving or they'll both run at CL=3.

>> If I misunderstood and you're really using an iMac, then this isn't a
>> concern.  You only have two sockets (or only one if you have the most
>> recent model iMac.)
>
> I am using an iMac, so that's cleared up. Do the newest iMacs really
> only have one?

Yes.  The newest models have 512M soldered to the mainboard and a single
DIMM socket for expantion (which can accept up to 2G.)

-- David
 
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