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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / February 2005CD stuck in iMac ..
Hi All, I'm due to pop round to my friends Dads today to check out the 'dead' iMac I mentioned here recently. He rang yesterday to add there was also a CD (the Sims game) stuck in there? So, if there was a CD in there (I assume it was a 'Mac' version of the game?) would the thing try to boot from the CD (hence the unhappy face) or would that only happn if you pressed the 'c' key whilst booting? Secondly, I noted from a manual I downloaded that you can use the emergency eject paper clip tool but possibly only on some models? Talking of models .. working from some comments from the last Q do I take it that the description "A red iMac model M5521" isn't sufficient to say what it actually is? A quick Google on M5521 seems to suggest its summat like a: G3 500MHz 320MB 20GB PC or 400mhz, dvd, 10gb etc. But would they all have they same system board, just with faster CPU and different 'bits'? All the best .. T i m > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > face) or would that only happn if you pressed the 'c' key whilst > booting? It should only happen if you press the C key while booting up. Macs aren't like (older?) PCs in terms of being set to first look for a system disc on various drives and refusing to budge when a non-system disc is in the floppy or CD-ROM drives. I don't think the unhappy face is caused by the Sims disc but the disc being stuck in there would preclude booting from a system installation disc and trying to repair the system so it can be booted. > Secondly, I noted from a manual I downloaded that you can use the > emergency eject paper clip tool but possibly only on some models? I believe you can eject from iMacs in this fashion if they are older iMacs. I don't know about the newer models. If there is a little hole near the CD slot, you can likely manually eject it by pushing a paper clip into the hole. There is another means of ejecting CDs from Macs but it'll only work if the disc isn't physically jammed in there. If you restart the computer while holding down the mouse button, any disc will eject on start up (usually after about a minute into the start-up process). I'd recommend your friend try this before stuffing paperclips in holes. This is especially useful for getting out discs which a computer can boot from when no system is installed or when ejecting CDs that don't mount on models with no hole for force ejecting (such as Mac Minis). Orchid >> So, if there was a CD in there (I assume it was a 'Mac' version of the >> game?) would the thing try to boot from the CD (hence the unhappy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >system disc on various drives and refusing to budge when a non-system >disc is in the floppy or CD-ROM drives. Ok, an update for you. I found the reason it was trying to boot from the CD because it couldn't boot from the HDD for some reason? The image on the screen went from a question mark to an image of a folder and an unhappy face (Information not relayed to me by the owner). >I don't think the unhappy face is caused by the Sims disc but the disc >being stuck in there would preclude booting from a system installation >disc and trying to repair the system so it can be booted. Indeed .. spot on ;-) >> Secondly, I noted from a manual I downloaded that you can use the >> emergency eject paper clip tool but possibly only on some models? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >(usually after about a minute into the start-up process). I'd recommend >your friend try this before stuffing paperclips in holes. What I did here was RTFM on one of the numerous .pdf manuals I had downloaded and that suggested a small eject button in the rhs of the cd slot (and there was) .. ;-) >This is especially useful for getting out discs which a computer can >boot from when no system is installed or when ejecting CDs that don't >mount on models with no hole for force ejecting (such as Mac Minis). That will be a good tip for the future though ;-) So, I booted from the restore CD, ran some tools (fixing a few 'issues') and it would then boot ok. I then ran Norton tools and AV over it and sorted out some further things. We then decided to start again with a full system restore and all seems sunny and bright again ;-) So, not as bad as I thought it might be .. it's just that stupid single button mouse I still can't get used to .. ;-( All the best .. (and thanks for the reply) T i m I've noticed the only eject button (that I can find) on the new iBooks is next to the function keys. And there's no paper clip hole anywhere. But...there's this little hole on the top right side of the display that looks an awful lot like the paper clip hole.... Unfortunately it doesn't seem likely it's the paper clip hole due to the physical reason for the PCH - to manually push the drive eject. So -- where *is* the PCH on the new iBooks? >... >> But...there's this little hole on the top right side of the display > that looks an awful lot like the paper clip hole.... Stay away from that one on the iBook display. I believe it's the mike. > So, not as bad as I thought it might be .. it's just that stupid > single button mouse I still can't get used to .. ;-( Get almost any PC confusible USB mouse (I have a Logitech, myself). OS X will use it as is without additional drivers. USB Overdrive will give you additional capability if you install it, but it is not neccessary, and OS X does recognize both the right button and the scroll wheel. jt >> So, not as bad as I thought it might be .. it's just that stupid >> single button mouse I still can't get used to .. ;-( [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >you additional capability if you install it, but it is not neccessary, >and OS X does recognize both the right button and the scroll wheel. Hi JT and thank's for that .. another hurdle re Mac ownership overcome ;-) All the best .. T i m |
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