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Network os 9.x to 10.2 problems

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jt august - 11 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT
Put simply, I don't know what I am doing.  I cannot get the iBook under
OS 9.1 to recognize the g3 tower with os 10.2, and I cannot see the
iBook from the tower.

I need to connect the two so i can transfer all the data from the book
to the tower so I can then install os 10.2 on the iBook.

Can someone either give me easy to use directions to get the two talking
or point me to a web page that pretty much leads me by the hand?

Thanks.

jt august
starsabre@att.net
nosredna - 11 Feb 2005 18:30 GMT
> Put simply, I don't know what I am doing.  I cannot get the iBook under
> OS 9.1 to recognize the g3 tower with os 10.2, and I cannot see the
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> jt august
> starsabre@att.net

Here's how I did it with my two Macs:
Make sure you've set up User(s) (the OSX machine) that are allowed
access to the OS9 Mac. In the OS9 Mac's File Sharing box, choose "Enable
File Sharing Clients to connect over TCP/IP." Back in the OS9 Finder,
select the volume or folder you want to make available to the OSX Mac
and choose Get Info (command I)/Sharing. Tell it to allow whatever users
your have set up (the OSX machine) Make sure AppleTalk is enabled on
both Macs.
Enable File Sharing on both Macs.
In the OSX Finder, choose Go/Connect to Server.
In the pop-up list, choose the server name (the OS9 Mac) OR type the
other Mac's IP address (get it from the OS9 Mac's TCP/IP control panel)
in the address field.
Click "Connect." The OS9 Mac's icon (of whatever volume or folder you
set up to share above) shows up on the desk. Drag files to it.
jt august - 12 Feb 2005 03:01 GMT
> Here's how I did it with my two Macs:
> Make sure you've set up User(s) (the OSX machine) that are allowed
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> Click "Connect." The OS9 Mac's icon (of whatever volume or folder you
> set up to share above) shows up on the desk. Drag files to it.

I tried to no success.  I''ve still got some questions:

I have an IP address on the 9s 9 TCP/IP panel, but none on the os x.  
How do I get an IP address on os x?

On both machines, how do I configure to connect via ehternet: Manually,
Using BootP server, Using DHCP server, or Using RARP server?

Within a give configuration, what, if anything, do I enter to DHCP
Client ID, IP Address, Subnet Mask, router address, name server address
and/or search domain (as applicable to the chosen configuration from the
previous question)?

I cannot get any options for an Appletalk zone.  Am I missing something,
or is this normal?

jt august
starsabre@att.net
nosredna - 12 Feb 2005 03:17 GMT
> > Here's how I did it with my two Macs:
> > Make sure you've set up User(s) (the OSX machine) that are allowed
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> jt august
> starsabre@att.net

Whoa! I thought you were further along that that. If you're using the
OSX machine to get on the internet, you already have an IP address. If
you have a router, you can set it to DHCP, then set the TCP/IPs for each
of your Macs to Manual, with consecutive numbers. My main (OSX) Mac is
192.168.1.100. I set the other Macs (OS7.6.1 and OS9) and a PC to have
consecutive numbers: 192.168.1.101, 102 103). I did my setup through
trial and error (and help from newsgroups and books), but I'm not a true
geek/nerd type; maybe someone else can continue where I left off!
jt august - 12 Feb 2005 05:59 GMT
> Whoa! I thought you were further along that that. If you're using the
> OSX machine to get on the internet, you already have an IP address. If
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> trial and error (and help from newsgroups and books), but I'm not a true
> geek/nerd type; maybe someone else can continue where I left off!

OK, let's say I have no idea what I am doing, at all, because I don't.  
I have a cross over cable between the two machines, no router.  My net
connection is dial-up.  If I dial in, I have an IP address, but it ends
with .att.net, so I have no idea if, when I switch configurations to
ethernet, whether the .att.net IP is valid.  If I reboot and don't dial
in, I have no IP.

jt
Doug Anderson - 12 Feb 2005 15:51 GMT
>> Whoa! I thought you were further along that that. If you're using the
>> OSX machine to get on the internet, you already have an IP address. If
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>
> jt

If you're networking the two via a crossover cable with no router then
you'll need to manually assign IP addresses to each computer within the
same IP and subnet range.

Go into each computer and change the TCP/IP settings to Manual.  Then
give one computer the IP address of 192.168.1.100 and the other the IP
address 192.168.1.101.  Give both a subnet address of 255.255.255.0

Then, turn on Appletalk on the OS 9 machine and assign Appletalk to the
Ethernet port.

You should now be able to see each computer.  In the OS X box, if it
doesn't automatically see the OS 9 machine then while in Finder Press
Command+K to initiate the Connect to server.  Type afp://192.168.1.xxx
(replace xxx with the number you used for that computer's IP address).  
You'll need to log in with the username and password you setup on the
OS 9 box for the sharing.
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jt august - 14 Feb 2005 01:03 GMT
I want to thank those who replied to this thread.  In a separate but
related thread, I found by accident the biggest source of my problems.  
But the replies to this thread allowed me to set the network connection
once the physical connection was solved.

Again, many thanks.

jt august
 
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