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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / October 2004Cant see CD after install of OS 9.2.2
Anyone got any idea what I can do now: After a full install of 9.2.2 from the CD ROM (obviously), on restart, the OS now cant see it's own CD ROM. I was given the option of installing other software when I finished the install but didnt imagine it would entail this? Is there a cure for this or can I download some extension somewhere? I seem to remember having this problem before with 9.2.2 and someone told me that it wasnt a proper OS but was merely the emulation for running classic apps under OS X so it didn't need an extensions for the DVD/CD and that if I could find any on my hard drive I should drag them into the extension folder and the CD would work, - which worked fine. But the history of this is that I had 8.6 upgraded to 9.2.1 and then to 9.2.2 which I used expostfacto to upgrade to Panther, - remarkably successfully (at first) and after only a few retries!! After three reboots, Panther stopped running and I started getting the error message that the hard drive couldnt be read and did I want to initialise it? I said NO and then nothing would make the computer start. NOW I have re-installed the 9.2.2 again and started getting the same error message that the unit couldnt see the drive and did I want to initiliase it? But when I ignored it, the unit went goes into 9.2.2 properly! (only without any CD ROM being visible) Does this mean that the hard drive is on the way out? Is there a utility for checking it or can I put it into my PC and run the Maxtor utility? Or where do I get the extension to run the DVD/CD under 9.2.2 so that I can install ex post facto adn try installing Panther again? (I am now using a different drive) I've just received a Blue & White 450MHz G3 that will boot from a retail OS 9.0 CD, as well as 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3. But NOT 9.1 or 9.2.1! In fact, if, after installing OS 9.0, I upgrade to 9.1, the computer shows a gray screen with cursor. Nothing else. I've swapped hard drive (with and without three different data cable), RAM, CD, and video card. All to no avail. The OS 9.1 install is good, because that drive will boot a G4 tower just fine. I'd love to find an answer to this one, as it has me and several others stumped!  SignatureBrian Ehni Unraveling the Truth about Fahrenheit 9/11 & Michael Moore http://www.fahrenhype911.com/ Brian you might do better posting a new thread as this one doesnt seem to relate to my question and people wont therefore see it. And they wont be looking for answering a question on a blue and whiteminitower on a 'beige' question thread. Meanwhile my problems have become worse as my computer is exhibiting the same problems as yours: SO I changed the drive and Panther installed properly to an 8 gig partition on a 10 gig drive AND the 922 install did see the CD this time but the Panther wont start the computer a second time. This is the second time I have had this problem after a fresh install adn I am beginning to wonder why no one else has had this problem. It is either with ExPostFacto or with the unit itself but I have looked at the XPF Forum and no one seems to have had the problem there either so all they are likely to tell me would be that ex post facto did its job properly and installed Panther on my beige g3 300 properly AND restarted and that the problem is somewhere else. I do have another hard drive installed and suppose I should just try moving the jumpers around on that computer to see which one works? (I dont really understand what PARK means and am still not sure if you should or shouldnt use cable select if two drives are on the same cable in any particular OS version). I may also play around with putting the 4 gig drive on which 922 couldnt see the CD into my otherwise spare 266 G3 adn see what it does just for fun?? (Like you I may have to post to another thread to get this problem seen by users: I am baffled by the flakiness of a system which can install properly from a CD but then not see the CD adn then install in exactly the same way to another drive and this time le tme see and use the CD) > I've just received a Blue & White 450MHz G3 that will boot from a retail OS > 9.0 CD, as well as 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'd love to find an answer to this one, as it has me and several others > stumped! > Anyone got any idea what I can do now: After a full install of 9.2.2 from > the CD ROM (obviously), on restart, the OS now cant see it's own CD ROM. I [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > ex post facto adn try installing Panther again? (I am now using a different > drive) It could be the drive failing, or it could just be corrupted. Before you do anything else, run some kind of utility from CD-ROM or external boot disk to check it. DiskWarrior and Drive 10 are a couple of utilities that seem to get good mention. I have the 9.2.2 update installed over 9.2.1 on my PowerBook G3. Turns out that wasn't strictly necessary, as 9.1 or 9.2.1 would have done just as fine. Some of the hardware peripheral manufacturers claim that you need 9.2.2 to run their drivers, which is why I did the 9.2.2 thing. I'm not convinced their claims are based on any actual problems with earlier versions, simply that 9.2.2 was the final classic update Apple released and, by policy, they always recommend installing with the latest available version of the OS. >> Anyone got any idea what I can do now: After a full install of 9.2.2 from >> the CD ROM (obviously), on restart, the OS now cant see it's own CD ROM. I [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > the final classic update Apple released and, by policy, they always > recommend installing with the latest available version of the OS. Also check your ram, is it OS X compatable? I had that problem with an iMac I had. It did just what yours did. Ran the iMac Hardware test CD and TechTool Pro and both said the ram was bad. The company replaced the ram, it was 4 years old, and so far everything has been good. SignatureBuzz life is too short to drink bad wine! > > It could be the drive failing, or it could just be corrupted. Before > > you do anything else, run some kind of utility from CD-ROM or external [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Pro and both said the ram was bad. The company replaced the ram, it was 4 > years old, and so far everything has been good. Sorry if this is a bit cross posted but I wonder if there is any acknowledged way of 'blessing' a system folder OS X or Panther? I know this sounds curious but I have had this problem with two drives now on which I have installed Panther on my beige G3 with XPF and the install has gone without a hitch and the computer has restarted without a hitch, sometimes two or three times. Then suddenly one morning, it starts seeing NO BOOT FOLDER on the drives at all. For no apparent reason. It makes no sense, it 's driving me nuts and I dont THINK it is the backup battery Even more curiously I now have a secondary drive with Panther and 9.2.2, - which contary to what they told you, I thought was only for classic emulation, - on a cable select-jumpered secondary drive behind the CD ROM (I thought you couldn't use C S with beige G3s?) and a primary HDD with OS X installed in a 6 gig partition. But when I try to boot, the system ONLY sees the 9.2.2 folder on the Panther-installed secondary drive as the bootable one and boots into 9.2.2. WHen the desktop opens, I can see both hard drives with all partitions on them and I can see all the system folders on all OSs in both drives but the system wont boot to OS X (or OS X Panther) from either drive when put in as primary OR ONLY drive under any circumstances. Can I just drag the finder out of the 9.2.2 folder and out of the OSX folder and drag it back into the OS X system folder again, rename the folders if necessary and see if the folder icon changes in OSX? (and then put that drive in as primary drive on the primary chain and try to boot into OSX?) And then do the same thing with Panther and put the Panther drive in as primary drive and try to boot from that? Does this method work with a Unix based OS or is dragging the finder out of the only bootable operating system folder OK for 8 or 9 but asking for trouble with X? Licensed to Quill |
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