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Cell wants number then text: what do I do?

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kevs - 25 Jul 2005 04:57 GMT
I have a document that list serial numbers.  (in a column)  for software
keys.

One on them used to come out:
4.88312E+14

Even though it was supposed to be a long number. So I think, I made this a
number??  And then everything was ok.

Now one of my serial numbers is not working : can't open a software I use.

It turns out Excel has deleted the zero at beginning:  WHYYYYYYYYY?????????

SO I change it to text and I'm ok.  But the first one is now screwed up.

Why the torture???????????????

Why can't excel just let me enter numbers and the look exactly as I entered
them????????

OS 10.4.2
Office 2004
Bob Greenblatt - 25 Jul 2005 13:43 GMT
You can start by formatting the column as text. Or, enter the values with a
leading apostrophe.

On 7/24/05 11:57 PM, in article BF09B14B.DF42%studiok4485@hotmail.com,

> I have a document that list serial numbers.  (in a column)  for software
> keys.
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> OS 10.4.2
> Office 2004

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kevs - 25 Jul 2005 19:28 GMT
Thanksl Bob!

What's going on?

Why does Excel chop of a zero in the cell is formatted for numbers?

And why does Excel  take a number that is:
488312064642057

And make it :   4.88312E+14  as text?

This number:
01459329  and chops off the 0

The apostrophe stores is as text correct? Thanks

Thanks!!!!!!!!!

On 7/25/05 5:43 AM, in article BF0A569D.4AC45%bob@nospam.com, "Bob
Greenblatt" <bob@nospam.com> wrote:

> You can start by formatting the column as text. Or, enter the values with a
> leading apostrophe.
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>> OS 10.4.2
>> Office 2004

OS 10.4.2
Office 2004
Bob Greenblatt - 26 Jul 2005 21:02 GMT
On 7/25/05 2:28 PM, in article BF0A7D5C.DF4B%studiok4485@hotmail.com, "kevs"
<studiok4485@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanksl Bob!
>
> What's going on?
>
> Why does Excel chop of a zero in the cell is formatted for numbers?

Excel is defaulting to the "General" format which does not display leading
zeros. Excel realizes that what you entered is a number and stores it as
such so you can do math with it. If you really want it as text, format it as
text or use the leading apostrophe.

> And why does Excel  take a number that is:
>  488312064642057
>
> And make it :   4.88312E+14  as text?
Same as above. Excel is trying to make this very large number more readable
and converts it to scientific notation. Again this is a number and can be
used in calculations.


> This number:
>  01459329  and chops off the 0

Same.

> The apostrophe stores is as text correct? Thanks

Yes, and you can tell this because it is left justified in the cell rather
than right justified.


> Thanks!!!!!!!!!

You're welcome.



> On 7/25/05 5:43 AM, in article BF0A569D.4AC45%bob@nospam.com, "Bob
> Greenblatt" <bob@nospam.com> wrote:
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> OS 10.4.2
> Office 2004

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kevs - 27 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
Bob:
Thanks for great help!

Lastly:
Why not show leading zeros?     ????

On 7/26/05 1:02 PM, in article BF0C0F10.4B736%bob@nospam.com, "Bob
Greenblatt" <bob@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 7/25/05 2:28 PM, in article BF0A7D5C.DF4B%studiok4485@hotmail.com, "kevs"
> <studiok4485@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> OS 10.4.2
>> Office 2004

OS 10.4.2
Office 2004
Paul Berkowitz - 27 Jul 2005 07:38 GMT
On 7/26/05 9:40 PM, in article BF0C5E4C.E02F%studiok4485@hotmail.com, "kevs"
<studiok4485@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Bob:
> Thanks for great help!
>
> Lastly:
> Why not show leading zeros?     ????

I'm not sure you understood what Bob wrote. Leading zeroes are not part of
numbers, they're just a formatting artifact. Numbers (integers) don't have
leading zeroes. You could set the Format/Cells/Number/Custom to always have
a fixed number of digits, which would supply the leading zeroes. (e.g. if
you enter the Format as 00000000 there will always be 8 digits, including as
many leading zeroes as necessary to make up the number.) But if your numbers
don't all have the same number of digits, that won't do. If you don't
actually need to calculate anything wit the numbers, then just format them
as text and they will appear exactly as you enter them, leading zero and
all.

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kevs - 28 Jul 2005 04:27 GMT
Thanks Paul, that help to explain it.

Your right, I would normally never put a zero in front of anything.

But this excel file I use a lost just list all my software passwords, and
serial numbers, and those developers sometimes put zeros at beginning. So
know I know the deal!

Thanks!!

On 7/26/05 11:38 PM, in article BF0C79E1.A99A7%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,

> On 7/26/05 9:40 PM, in article BF0C5E4C.E02F%studiok4485@hotmail.com, "kevs"
> <studiok4485@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> as text and they will appear exactly as you enter them, leading zero and
> all.

OS 10.4.2
Office 2004
 
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