> > It
> > keeps asking for the password, but he is using the same password that he
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> password he is entering or he needs a separate password for access to
> email.
Seems logical, but I used the "change Password" under Special and put
the same password back in so it *should* be OK. Is it possible that
since the account is so new that Access4less does not have the password
logged into the mail service? The password works fine for web access.

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Peter Ceresole - 27 Jul 2004 18:47 GMT
> Seems logical, but I used the "change Password" under Special and put
> the same password back in so it *should* be OK. Is it possible that
> since the account is so new that Access4less does not have the password
> logged into the mail service? The password works fine for web access.
They might be a bit slow, but after a few hours it should work. Any
longer delay would be silly.
From what you say, I really can't see what can be wrong.

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david bonde - 27 Jul 2004 22:48 GMT
> Seems logical, but I used the "change Password" under Special and put
> the same password back in so it *should* be OK. Is it possible that
> since the account is so new that Access4less does not have the password
> logged into the mail service? The password works fine for web access.
IIRC, 'Change password' does not change the pwd stored in Eudora but
rather uses some extension to the mail retrieveing protocol to change
your password at the mail server. Enable 'loggin all bytes transferred'
and post the log here.

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Peter Ceresole - 27 Jul 2004 22:54 GMT
> IIRC, 'Change password' does not change the pwd stored in Eudora but
> rather uses some extension to the mail retrieveing protocol to change
> your password at the mail server.
Really? I thought it just changed the password stored in Eudora and sent
to the pop3 server. That's certainly the way it appears to work here.
Changing the password at the server end usually involves either telnet
or a web interface, and requires you to enter the old password correctly
before you can change it. That's not the case with 'change password'.

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Kathy Morgan - 28 Jul 2004 07:10 GMT
> > IIRC, 'Change password' does not change the pwd stored in Eudora but
> > rather uses some extension to the mail retrieveing protocol to change
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> or a web interface, and requires you to enter the old password correctly
> before you can change it. That's not the case with 'change password
I think David is right. Most people have Eudora set to remember the
password, and in that case you wouldn't consciously enter the old
password--Eudora is doing it for you. I think it depends on the server
though, that some will let you do it and some won't.

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david bonde - 28 Jul 2004 12:02 GMT
> I think it depends on the server
> though, that some will let you do it and some won't.
Most want:-(

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Peter Ceresole - 29 Jul 2004 16:26 GMT
> > Changing the password at the server end usually involves either telnet
> > or a web interface, and requires you to enter the old password correctly
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> password, and in that case you wouldn't consciously enter the old
> password--Eudora is doing it for you.
Sure- I'm talking only about *changing* the password. In that case you
don't need to know the old password to change the one sent on by Eudora-
just 'change password' does it. You enter your new password.
I mentioned this because the OP seemed to think that the fact that the
new password was accepted by Eudora mean that it must be right. But
Eudora knows nothing except the password it was told last time, and will
accept any password you choose to give it. The problem comes when you
try to log on to the pop3 server.

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Kathy Morgan - 30 Jul 2004 07:15 GMT
> I'm talking only about *changing* the password. In that case you
> don't need to know the old password to change the one sent on by Eudora-
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> accept any password you choose to give it. The problem comes when you
> try to log on to the pop3 server.
Ah, yes, I understand now what you're saying.

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>> It
>> keeps asking for the password, but he is using the same password that he
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> password he is entering or he needs a separate password for access to
> email.
Also look out for upper and lower case sensitive.

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Nick Hull - 27 Jul 2004 19:13 GMT
> >> It
> >> keeps asking for the password, but he is using the same password that he
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>
> Also look out for upper and lower case sensitive.
I tried "change password" and it accepted the password and I re-entered
the same password, so I *think* that means I got it right.
I thought it might be a case sensitive problem when I had
'SMTP.access4less' and changed it to smtp.access4less but it made no
difference. Why does Eudora send out mail but not receive it?

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Peter Ceresole - 27 Jul 2004 19:36 GMT
> I thought it might be a case sensitive problem when I had
> 'SMTP.access4less' and changed it to smtp.access4less but it made no
> difference. Why does Eudora send out mail but not receive it?
Because the two processes are quite separate.
The fact that 'change password' allowed you to type something in doesn't
mean that the password you typed was correct. It's not Eudora that's
asking you for a password, it's the pop3 server. So even if you entered
quite the wrong password, the only clue you would get of this is that
the pop3 server wouldn't let you in, and Eudora would ask you for a
password the next time you tried. If you get it right (and you have
'remember password' checked) it won't ask you again. But that's not
based on Eudora knowing what the password should be, but on the pop3
server refusing the attempted connection.
I still feel the most likely reason is that somehow you are entering the
wrong password.

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PeterG - 27 Jul 2004 19:41 GMT
>>>> It
>>>> keeps asking for the password, but he is using the same password that he
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> 'SMTP.access4less' and changed it to smtp.access4less but it made no
> difference. Why does Eudora send out mail but not receive it?
Not sure! Something to do with the POP settings?

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