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Richard F Dowling - 26 Jun 2004 08:16 GMT
I've just installed 6.1 on a newly installed OsX10.2 upgrade. When
launched at first all worked, but since , on launch I have no settings,
unless I launch from the 'Settings Copy' file, but from there I can no
longer access or send mail. All of my settings are correct . I've gone
through the FAQs, but don't see a solution to my problem, any ideas.
Richard
Peter Ceresole - 26 Jun 2004 10:24 GMT
> I've just installed 6.1 on a newly installed OsX10.2 upgrade. When
> launched at first all worked, but since , on launch I have no settings,
> unless I launch from the 'Settings Copy' file, but from there I can no
> longer access or send mail.

If you launch from the Settings file which is in the Eudora Folder that
contains the mail you want to access, it should all work fine. You can
use an alias in the Dock if that makes it easier. If necessary, enter
your settings again, but if you can find your original Settings file and
put it in the right Eudora Folder that will work.

I've installed 6.1 in Light mode, and have two Eudora Folders kept in
different places so their names don't clash, which give me different
mailbases when I fire up their respective Settings files. I also have
several different Settings files in my main Eudora Folder, so I can use
that mailbase with several different ISPs. I have aliases to each kept
in a handy 'Comms' desktop folder but you can keep them in the Dock if
you want. Remember a Settings file can have any name you want- so I have
Demon Eudora Settings, Freeserve Eudora Settings, Bluewin Eudora
Settings and Econophone Eudora Settings in the same Eudora Folder, with
aliases pointing to each.

Whichever of those ISPs I am using, I collect my mail from my Demon
address, so each Settings file includes (using the Esoteric settings
plugin) a reply-to:my.demon.address.
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Richard F Dowling - 27 Jun 2004 17:21 GMT
> If you launch from the Settings file which is in the Eudora Folder that
> contains the mail you want to access, it should all work fine. You can
> use an alias in the Dock if that makes it easier. If necessary, enter
> your settings again, but if you can find your original Settings file and
> put it in the right Eudora Folder that will work.
This did work for me, but oddly.  After reinstalling Eudora to my HD I
could find no trace of a Eudora Folder, and Eudora opened with settings
details  filled in correctly, but with no mail or addresses. So I put a
copy of my old settings into the Documents Folder, opened from that
settings file and all was intact and working.
But it seems odd to me that I can't start up from the Application, or
from Recent Items, in there there were 2 Eudora apps listed, both of
which launched the app without mail or addresses.  Am I worrying unduly
about this , maybe I should just treat it as another difference from the
way I worked in 9

> I. I have aliases to each kept
> in a handy 'Comms' desktop folder but you can keep them in the Dock if
> you want.
How do you add an alias to the Dock? I've tried just dropping it onto
it but to no avail.
Richard F Dowling - 27 Jun 2004 17:29 GMT
>  How do you add an alias to the Dock? I've tried just dropping it onto
> it but to no avail.

my aplogies for this last part of previous article, of course I found
the answer in MacHelp!
Richard
Peter Ceresole - 27 Jun 2004 18:15 GMT
> But it seems odd to me that I can't start up from the Application, or
> from Recent Items, in there there were 2 Eudora apps listed, both of
> which launched the app without mail or addresses.

This because the Eudora Folder you are using isn't where it is expecting
to find it. If it is opening with your mail, then although you say you
can't find the Eudora Folder, it must be there somewhere...

I'd say cut out the complication and just start Eudora from the
Settings; there's no advantage at all in starting from the application.

> > I. I have aliases to each kept
> > in a handy 'Comms' desktop folder but you can keep them in the Dock if
> > you want.
>  How do you add an alias to the Dock? I've tried just dropping it onto
> it but to no avail.

You have to drag it to the correct part of the dock. You'll see that
there's a division- a line- that splits it. One part contains the Trash
icon [1], the other contains the application icons. You have to drag the
settings alias to the *non-application* end. The end that things go to
when you minimise them.

[1] This is in 10.2.n; the trash may be in a different place in 10.3.n
but the principle is the same.

Have fun- it *will* work.
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Richard F Dowling - 27 Jun 2004 19:45 GMT
> This because the Eudora Folder you are using isn't where it is expecting
> to find it. If it is opening with your mail, then although you say you
> can't find the Eudora Folder, it must be there somewhere...

It opened ,with my mail, only after using the old settings file, and
I've now found how to access from here using the Dock. But I'd like to
know where the Eudora Folder was  following installation, I thought it
had to be in the Documents Folder, in 9 or 10
> I'd say cut out the complication and just start Eudora from the
> Settings; there's no advantage at all in starting from the application.
You are right though,  and thanks for your attention
Richard
Peter Ceresole - 28 Jun 2004 00:51 GMT
> But I'd like to
> know where the Eudora Folder was  following installation, I thought it
> had to be in the Documents Folder, in 9 or 10

Only if you'd put it there. The installation won't move your existing
Eudora Folder. Just do a 'Find' from the Finder, and discover where it
is.
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Kathy Morgan - 27 Jun 2004 06:55 GMT
> I've just installed 6.1 on a newly installed OsX10.2 upgrade. When
> launched at first all worked, but since , on launch I have no settings,
> unless I launch from the 'Settings Copy' file, but from there I can no
> longer access or send mail. All of my settings are correct . I've gone
> through the FAQs, but don't see a solution to my problem, any ideas.

Besides the excellent suggestions from Peter Ceresole, I'd suggest
checking to make sure your Eudora Folder is where Eudora expects to find
it in OS X.  If you want to launch using the application icon, your
Settings file should be in your Eudora Folder, which Eudora looks for in
~/Documents.  You can put the folder elsewhere, but if you do you need
to make an alias named "Eudora Folder" and put it in ~/Documents.

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Peter Ceresole - 27 Jun 2004 09:26 GMT
> You can put the folder elsewhere, but if you do you need
> to make an alias named "Eudora Folder" and put it in ~/Documents.

I'm not sure about the need for the alias; my installation is an upgrade
from an OS9 one, in which OS9 (and most of my data files) live on a
separate partition (HD) from OS10 (Darwin). My Eudora Folder was in the
OS9 System Folder on 'HD'. Eudora 6.1 installed itself in Applications
on 'Darwin'; the installer found the original Eudora folder on 'HD',
changed its internal structure (eg putting the mailboxes into a
subfolder called 'Mail') and did *not* put anything at all into the
Documents folder on 'Darwin'. Eudora 6.1 found the folder; I can't
remember if it asked me where it was. But my addresses and filters are
in the Eudora Folder.

My aliases to the different Settings files continued to work- and the
whole contraption Just Worked. Everything- across two partitions.
Without an alias to the Eudora Folder. The only thing I had to do was to
move SuperSleek from the Eudora Stuff folder to the Plugins folder
inside the Eudora 6.1 application. It continued to work as before,
although in fact I changed to using the Esoteric Settings instead.

I must say I was hugely impressed with the lack of pain involved...
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Peter

Kathy Morgan - 28 Jun 2004 17:20 GMT
> > You can put the folder elsewhere, but if you do you need
> > to make an alias named "Eudora Folder" and put it in ~/Documents.
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> remember if it asked me where it was. But my addresses and filters are
> in the Eudora Folder.

Ah, yes; when I installed Eudora for OS X, I did not tell it that I
already had a Eudora Folder on the OS 9 partition, which probably
explains why I needed an alias and you didn't.

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Kathy

 
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