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Norm - 05 Jun 2004 13:51 GMT
This is a very beginner question when using Eudora on my "travel" Mac.

I've used Eudora for years but have not had to transfer mail (both Out
and in mail) from one Mac to another.

I'd rather not copy my entire Eudora Folder to my Powerbook and then
copy back again after trip. I'd prefer keeping just new in and out mail
while traveling and then transfer it to my desktop Mac on return.

Is there a "best" way to do this?

I know if I sometimes transfer mail to or from the "Out" mailbox
(because the mail is a copy of my newsgroup post so it comes in as In
mail but I want to save it as Out mail) Eudora will report some headers
will be lost. I don't want that to happen.

Thanks for any tips.

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Peter Ceresole - 05 Jun 2004 14:40 GMT
> I'd rather not copy my entire Eudora Folder to my Powerbook and then
> copy back again after trip. I'd prefer keeping just new in and out mail
> while traveling and then transfer it to my desktop Mac on return.

If you want to transfer just your new traffic, not holus bolus the In
and Out mailboxes, the simplest way is to make a 'Transfer' mailbox.
Within Eudora, and put into that all the mail you want to copy across.

Copy that Transfer mailbox into your desktop Eudora Folder, either via a
Zip disk or network or whatever you use. Then, distribute the mails to
your taste within Eudora.

If you prefer to keep the In and Out mails separate, make a Transfer In
and Transfer Out mailbox and copy those.

This works and is very quick.
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Nick Hull - 14 Jun 2004 11:39 GMT
> > I'd rather not copy my entire Eudora Folder to my Powerbook and then
> > copy back again after trip. I'd prefer keeping just new in and out mail
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>
> This works and is very quick.

I guess I don't understand what a 'Transfer' mailbox is.  I'm trying to
move my brother's e-mail from his old computer (performa) to a new
PM7200 I'm giving him.  I want to transfer EVERYTHING by zip disk from
the old to the new (only have the one monitor).

There is a 'copy drag & drop' way to do this, because I did it twice
myself when I upgraded my own computer but I guess I forgot some
critical detail.  I am talking here about Eudora Light on a PM7200.

If I put stuff into a 'transfer' mailbox how do I get the Eudora to find
the file?  How do I make the pointers point to the right place?

Any help appreciated, this is probably a dumb question but I grew up on
vacuum tubes and I'm a bit obsolete.

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Jon Aalborg - 14 Jun 2004 12:07 GMT
>> > I'd rather not copy my entire Eudora Folder to my Powerbook and then
>> > copy back again after trip. I'd prefer keeping just new in and out mail
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>Any help appreciated, this is probably a dumb question but I grew up on
>vacuum tubes and I'm a bit obsolete.

Yours is a different question from the one aswered above, I think.

If you don't have too much mail, what you can do is copy your brother's
entire Eudora folder onto the zip disk. The Eudora Folder will most
liekly be in the System Folder or the Documents folder on the Performa.
Copy the folder again from the disk onto the new machine. If there is
no-one else using Eudora on that machine, copy it to the same location
as on the old one. If there is more in there than will fit onto a zip
disk, please read below for options.

HOWEVER: If there is more than one mail account on the new machine,
i.e., there's already a valid Eudora folder there that is in use for
other accounts, you will need to keep the two separate. There are
several ways to do this, the simplest is to just keep the new one in a
different location and Start Eudora by doubleclicking the relevant
Eudora folder's Settings file. This will force Eudora to use that
particular folder and its corresponding account. You can also import
everything into one structure, but I won't go into that here.

IF THE MAIL FOLDER IS TOO BIG TO FIT ON ONE ZIP DISK:
See if you can move everything except the Attachments folder, usually
found inside the Eudora folder, then move the attachments diskfull by
diskfull, to the new machine, recreating the Attachemnt folder inside
the (new) Eudora folder there. If that doesn't work, you probably ought
to find something that can compress the folder(s) into one file and then
split that in segments, like Stuffit in the Pro version can, or most
backup software, then restore on the other machine.

Good luck.

/Jon
Peter Ceresole - 14 Jun 2004 12:46 GMT
> I guess I don't understand what a 'Transfer' mailbox is.  I'm trying to
> move my brother's e-mail from his old computer (performa) to a new
> PM7200 I'm giving him.  I want to transfer EVERYTHING by zip disk from
> the old to the new (only have the one monitor).

The idea of the 'Transfer' mailbox [1] is only if you *don't* want to
transfer everything- which was what the original poster had asked..

To transfer everything, simply copy from one Mac to the other the
folder:: HD:System folder:Eudora Folder. It may be in the Documents
folder rather than the System Folder. Put it in the same place on the
new Mac.

That will transfer all the mail and the settings files.

Unless you are simultaneously upgrading Eudora itself, also transfer the
folder in which he keeps the Eudora application. That will also transfer
any files like Eudora tables or any special settings enablers like
SuperSleek, if he has them installed.

[1] There's nothing special about a 'Transfer' mailbox; it's just an
ordinary mailbox that has been named 'Transfer'. I could have called it
'Swap' or even 'Fred'. It would make no difference to the way it works.
But it's not what you need here.
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Stephen Esrati - 25 Jun 2004 14:41 GMT
I find it impossible to drag my Eudora Folder from my desktop Mac to my
Powerbook. I keep getting a message that I do not have the necessary
permissions or privileges to copy the Settings File.

>>I guess I don't understand what a 'Transfer' mailbox is.  I'm trying to
>>move my brother's e-mail from his old computer (performa) to a new
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> 'Swap' or even 'Fred'. It would make no difference to the way it works.
> But it's not what you need here.
Peter Ceresole - 25 Jun 2004 15:25 GMT
> I find it impossible to drag my Eudora Folder from my desktop Mac to my
> Powerbook. I keep getting a message that I do not have the necessary
> permissions or privileges to copy the Settings File.

Ah yes. The black art of OS10 permissions. You might need to log on as
root, but I've never done that. Others here will know, I'm sure.
Otherwise ask in uk.comp.sys.mac.

Frankly, as far as I am concerned, I would reboot into OS9 (which I can
do) and make the copy that way. Then go back into 10. But there is a
Proper Way...
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Peter

JPaul - 28 Jun 2004 06:50 GMT
> Ah yes. The black art of OS10 permissions. You might need to log on as
> root, but I've never done that.

No, you don't need to log as root, and it is not recommended.
Just use sudo with chmod in the Terminal and you need just your admin
password.
"man sudo" and "man chmod" give informations on these commands, if you
don't know these.

Actualy, I recommand that you do the copy being on the destination
computer. So if you have just read access on the source folders and
files you can do the copy without changing any permissions.
If you haven't any access on the source folder and files you have to
change the permissions of these (with sudo chmod).

An other possibility for changing the permissions, if you don't like the
Terminal, is the following :
1) Select the source folder of the copy
2) Ask for the informations : File --> get Info (<pomme> I)
3) click on  the triangle on the left of "Details", so you'll see all
the ownerships and permissions
4) click on the padlock (you have then to use  your admin password
5) change temporary the owner to your current login
6) note somewhere what are now the permissions
7) change the permissions for the group and others to "Read only"
8) click on "Apply to enclosed items"

And so you can do the copy.

9) don't forget to change back the permissions
10) and to lock by clicking again on the padlock

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