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I'm trying to filter body text in Eudora Pro 4.2 but it won't work...??

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Jeff Potter - 25 May 2004 23:27 GMT
I'm trying to use Eudora Pro 4.2 to do simple body text filtering but
it won't work.

It looks very straight forward. And I have filters set up for
Subjectlines, etc., that work just fine. But the "body" request
doesn't work.

I open the program, go to Window, then Filters, then New, then under
Header I pick ">>Body<<" and type in the desired "containing" then
have it transfer matching email to Trash.

No problem!

Except it doesn't work. At all. What am I doing wrong?

FYI, I'm trying to filter out this one evil spammer. I've changed my
email and no longer get 100 spams a day. I'm down to lame emails from
this one spammer. It's the drugs one---medications, prescriptions,
drugs, pills---are all keywords. The spammer is cute because they mess
up all the Subjectlines, but they do use consistent words in  the
body. So that's what I'm filtering for. The jerks can't garble it ALL
up coz then it would be, well, useless---as if it isn't already.
Sheesh.

THANKS FOR ANY IDEAS!!!

--JP
Sander Tekelenburg - 26 May 2004 01:33 GMT
> I'm trying to use Eudora Pro 4.2 to do simple body text filtering but
> it won't work.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Except it doesn't work. At all. What am I doing wrong?

First guess would be that some other filter already overrides this one.
Go to the actual Filters window (under the Window menu). messages are
affected by filters in the order the filters are placed there (you can
grab 'n' drag them to movethe order). If you use filter creation the way
you do, I believe the new filter ends up at the bottom of the list. If
an earlier filter already affects it, then, depending on *how* that
filter affects it, the message may never reach the next filter.

Notably, when a filter moves a message to another mailbox, it applies an
implicirt "skip rest".

> FYI, I'm trying to filter out this one evil spammer. I've changed my
> email and no longer get 100 spams a day. I'm down to lame emails from
> this one spammer. It's the drugs one---medications, prescriptions,
> drugs, pills---are all keywords. The spammer is cute because they mess
> up all the Subjectlines, but they do use consistent words in  the
> body. So that's what I'm filtering for.

And you're sure that you never receive valid email that contains any of
those drugs you plan to filter on? What about someone menstioning the
drugstore?

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Pete Stephenson - 26 May 2004 01:52 GMT
> And you're sure that you never receive valid email that contains any of
> those drugs you plan to filter on? What about someone menstioning the
> drugstore?

I just let a combination of mail-server-supplied SpamAssassin scanning
and Eudora Bayseian filtering to tag mail (which is diverted into my
Junk folder). I rarely like static filters for precisely the reason
you've described.

Of course, Eudora Pro 4.2 doesn't support that...but still. Perhaps
there's a Bayseian plug-in for Eudora 4.2?

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Kathy Morgan - 27 May 2004 04:03 GMT
> YI, I'm trying to filter out this one evil spammer. I've changed my
> email and no longer get 100 spams a day. I'm down to lame emails from
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> up coz then it would be, well, useless---as if it isn't already.
> Sheesh.

Sander is probably right, that some other filter is affecting the
message before this one.  However, there's also the possibility that in
fact all the body key words are garbled [1] or maybe you're trying to
filter messages that match *all* keywords instead of matching *any*
keyword.

[1] The spammers often use HTML to obfuscate the key words, so for
instance they might type "cialis" as "ci<some garbage>alis" which will
probably render as "cialis" on the screen.  They also throw in all sorts
of garbage that doesn't fool the human eye by does stop the keyword
filtering, like this sample from today's spam: "V-IA-G-RA, P-RO-Z-AC,
Ha-n-g-ov-er pi-l-ls, Hu-m-an Gro-wth Ho-rm-one and much much more!" We
can easily pick the keywords from this, but your keyword filter will not
recognize them.

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Jeff Potter - 27 May 2004 16:23 GMT
> > YI, I'm trying to filter out this one evil spammer. I've changed my
> > email and no longer get 100 spams a day. I'm down to lame emails from
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Sander is probably right, that some other filter is affecting the
> message before this one.

You got it! But Sander is not right. It's the first filter. But...

> However, there's also the possibility that in
> fact all the body key words are garbled [1]

Ah ha! More soon...

> or maybe you're trying to
> filter messages that match *all* keywords instead of matching *any*
> keyword.

Not this either. But...

> [1] The spammers often use HTML to obfuscate the key words, so for
> instance they might type "cialis" as "ci<some garbage>alis" which will
> probably render as "cialis" on the screen.  

THAT'S IT! I didn't know how to show source code in Eudora Pro 4.2 (I
still don't really), but I hit the 'blah blah blah' button and sure
enough the JERKS had done just as you say! All kinds of <junk>
appeared in all my keywords! ARGH! Hitmen, where are thee when we need
ye!

--JP
 
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