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S. Skinner - 22 May 2004 22:02 GMT
Hey there.

Does anyone know of a keyboard shortcut for showing/hiding the mailbox
drawer? I haven't been able to find one, but I know that doesn't
necessarily mean there isn't one. (I'm using 6.0.1.)

Thanks!
-S. Skinner
Steve W. Jackson - 23 May 2004 00:32 GMT
:> Hey there.
:>
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:> Thanks!
:> -S. Skinner

Eudora has no mailbox drawer.  That's Apple's Mail.
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czobes - 23 May 2004 03:17 GMT
> Eudora has no mailbox drawer.

It does now.

Upper right of any mailbox window (above the scroll arrow) - click
icon...
Steve W. Jackson - 23 May 2004 23:50 GMT
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<czobes-74FC04.22174322052004@nycmny-nntp-rdr-03-ge1.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,

:> In article <stevewjackson-7042F7.18323122052004@corp.supernews.com>,
:>  "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@charter.net> wrote:
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:> Upper right of any mailbox window (above the scroll arrow) - click
:> icon...

What's the right word?  "Eewwww!!".  I really don't much care for that,
now that I see it.  I wonder what I would ever use it for?

So I stand corrected.  But I see no keyboard shortcut that would
activate it.

= Steve =
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Rifty - 24 May 2004 15:59 GMT
> What's the right word?  "Eewwww!!".  I really don't much care for that,
> now that I see it.  I wonder what I would ever use it for?

I hadn't seen it either, and it requires a bit of rejigging to get it
into view. But I can see one use for it. It could be useful for drag and
drop transferring of emails from the open mailbox to any other without
having to go up to the top menu.

Rifty
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Peter Ceresole - 24 May 2004 16:08 GMT
> I hadn't seen it either, and it requires a bit of rejigging to get it
> into view. But I can see one use for it. It could be useful for drag and
> drop transferring of emails from the open mailbox to any other without
> having to go up to the top menu.

Is this any different from the Mailboxes list that previous versions of
Eudora have made available from the 'Special' menu? Once enabled, it
remains visible for ever unless you close it. Extremely useful for doing
what you mentioned there... I haven't used the 'Transfer' menu for
years; 'Mailboxes' is much quicker and nicer
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Steve W. Jackson - 25 May 2004 04:47 GMT
:> Rifty <rifty@tpg.com.au> wrote:
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:> what you mentioned there... I haven't used the 'Transfer' menu for
:> years; 'Mailboxes' is much quicker and nicer

I think you mean the Window menu -- at least, I can't find anything
marked Mailboxes on my Special menu.

If I'm correct, then they are indeed different.  Personally, I always
keep the Mailboxes window open, including tabs for Address Book, Filters
and Signatures.  But to get a drawer, you need to actually open a window
for one of your mailboxes (you'll see the Drawer item on the Window menu
is dimmed until you do).  What I discovered once this was pointed out to
me is that, once opened, the drawer's state will remain set for that
particular mailbox every time you open its window.  Next time you open
the same mailbox window, the drawer will be open or closed as it was
when the window last closed.  So I suppose if I had it open on my Trash
window, I could readily use drag and drop instead of the Transfer menu
to remove items that should not have been filtered there, for instance.

= Steve =
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Peter Ceresole - 25 May 2004 08:24 GMT
> I think you mean the Window menu -- at least, I can't find anything
> marked Mailboxes on my Special menu.

Clearly it's a version thang- I'm using 3.1.3 Light and that has an item
called Special->Mailboxes, and I keep the 'Mailboxes' window open all
the time.

However, if the drawer contains all the mailboxes, then it'll be
functionally much the same, although it's nice to have the one
'Mailboxes' window accessible from all the others. And it can be placed
where I like, and not associated with any particular window. On a 15"
TiBook, which has plenty of screen width, this is ideal. But I'm sure I
shall be able to live with the new way.
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Kathy Morgan - 25 May 2004 23:31 GMT
> However, if the drawer contains all the mailboxes, then it'll be
> functionally much the same, although it's nice to have the one
> 'Mailboxes' window accessible from all the others. And it can be placed
> where I like, and not associated with any particular window. On a 15"
> TiBook, which has plenty of screen width, this is ideal. But I'm sure I
> shall be able to live with the new way.

You'll be happy to know that you also have the option of continuing in
the old way--you still have the same familiar 'Mailboxes' window, it's
just that now it's under the Window menu instead of the Special menu.

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Peter Ceresole - 26 May 2004 00:23 GMT
> You'll be happy to know that you also have the option of continuing in
> the old way--you still have the same familiar 'Mailboxes' window, it's
> just that now it's under the Window menu instead of the Special menu.

Oh goody. Thanks Kathy for those reassuring words from Tok...
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Steve W. Jackson - 29 May 2004 04:41 GMT
:> Steve W. Jackson <stevewjackson@charter.net> wrote:
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:> TiBook, which has plenty of screen width, this is ideal. But I'm sure I
:> shall be able to live with the new way.

As somebody else has posted, the same Mailboxes window is available via
the Window menu.  I have always kept mine open, and can't think of any
possible reason why this new drawer will ever find its way into how I
use Eudora.  But I'm curious why on earth anyone's still using 3.1.3!!  
I left that behind ages ago and forgot everything about it as I moved on
to bigger and better features.

= Steve =
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Peter Ceresole - 29 May 2004 11:17 GMT
> As somebody else has posted, the same Mailboxes window is available via
> the Window menu.  I have always kept mine open, and can't think of any
> possible reason why this new drawer will ever find its way into how I
> use Eudora.

Well I'm using 6.1 in Light mode now, and I can't understand ever
wanting to use the drawer, either.

> But I'm curious why on earth anyone's still using 3.1.3!!  
> I left that behind ages ago and forgot everything about it as I moved on
> to bigger and better features.

I went on using it because it was absolutely excellent- very stable and
very fast, even in 10.2.6/Classic. I'd been using it for years in OS8
and OS9- still am, on an old marmalade coloured TonkaBook networked to
my TiBook- and I saw no need to change, so I didn't.

Now I'm using 6.1 Light, it feels pretty well exactly the same. There
are no new features that I want to use- my ISP has excellent spam
filtering and the filters I worked out for 3.1.3 work identically in
6.1, except that they seem to be a bit slower, and they don't show in
the task progress window as they did in 3.1.3, which seems a retrograde
step to me. But it's no big deal.

I don't need personalities, as multiple settings files do me absolutely
fine when I change location to a new ISP. None of the four ISPs I use
require smtp authentication, but it is still theoretically nice to be
able to do that if it crops up in future. I can see Asian characters
displayed if I actually look at the occasional Korean spams that get
through. Big deal. I could have previews of the mails, but I'd rather
have the list view real estate, so I've switched them off.

It's been worth changing simply to eliminate some minor bugs that
surfaced in 3.1.3 in Classic- but they were pretty minor. It's
introduced some small irritations of its own- for instance it won't let
me view my previously archived HTML mails in a browser- says "Couldn't
send the HTML to your browser. -39,(24:2788)." Those were collected
using 3.1.3- the ones I have collected with 6.1 don't have any problems.
Paradoxically, when I transfer these 6.1 downloads across the network to
my TonkaBook which is using 3.1.3, it can view them in the browser
without trouble. Not that it's a great problem- if I need to see earlier
HTML mails on the TiBook, I can always fire up 3.1.3; displaying them in
a (Classic) browser works from there.

All in all 6.1 is okay. Actually *better* than 3.1.3? Not much. But
3.1.3 was damn good.
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Kathy Morgan - 29 May 2004 16:45 GMT
> But I'm curious why on earth anyone's still using 3.1.3!!  
> I left that behind ages ago and forgot everything about it as I moved on
> to bigger and better features.

I expect it's for the same reason I'm still using Quicken '98--it does
everything I need, I'm comfortable with it, and it's already paid for.
I know I was very happy with 3.1.3 for a long time, but when Eudora
added format=flowed and a spell-checker, I just had to have the newer
version. Since then I'm been upgrading as fast as I can get my hands on
the new versions.  I particularly appreciate the Junk mail filtering
built into version 6.x.

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Steve W. Jackson - 29 May 2004 17:40 GMT
:> Steve W. Jackson <stevewjackson@charter.net> wrote:
:>
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:> the new versions.  I particularly appreciate the Junk mail filtering
:> built into version 6.x.

And the junk mail filtering is not a reason why I've kept current, since
you have to have the paid version to get that.  I've been using the
sponsored mode since not long after it became available.

But in general, I concur about keeping what works.  I eventually moved
beyond Quicken 98 when I got tired of some quirks in OS X and got a
really good deal on a newer version.  I'm in no hurry to go beyond my
current version.

= Steve =
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