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Eudora 8.0b8 is out

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Steve Maser - 06 Jan 2010 15:53 GMT
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases

Based on Thunderbird 3.0b4 oddly enough.   They must have more work to
do to get it to the TB 3.0 GM release...
John H Meyers - 06 Jan 2010 22:26 GMT
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:53:21 -0600:

> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases
>
> Based on Thunderbird 3.0b4 oddly enough.
> They must have more work to do
> to get it to the TB 3.0 GM release...

A Qualcomm developer did recently note that they are
one step further back than the public releases of TB,
and were considering whether to delay,
to catch up with the official TB3 release,
or to release an additional interim E8 beta,
and the latter idea evidently prevailed.

Thanks for the announcement.

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BlownFuse - 22 Jan 2010 02:38 GMT
6.2.4 was getting a little flaky for me, so I installed 8.0b8.  Takes a
little getting used to.
-- It does render HTML where 6 rarely did correctly
-- It automatically configured to my pop account, where I never could
get Mac Mail or a few other clients to work
-- It did import all of the settings, filters and address book data
from 6.  It set up the mailboxes and *most* of the mail, but not all.  
It randomly marked previously read msgs as unread
-- It doesn't  have a "New Message To" command.  I miss that.
-- I have a lot of mailboxes that messages are sorted into.  8 could do
a better job of marking which mailboxes have new messages so they're
easier to find, especially when folders are nested (top level folders
might be in bold, I can't tell for sure on my MacBook Pro).
-- When starting, 8 opens many mail folders in new windows open that
don't have any new messages.

After a couple of days, it seems to be pretty reliable.  I was worried
for awhile that I was losing incoming msgs, but it just wasn't that
obvious that folders had new mail.

It has a ways to go, but, for my purposes, it's an acceptable upgrade.

> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases
>
> Based on Thunderbird 3.0b4 oddly enough.   They must have more work to
> do to get it to the TB 3.0 GM release...
Patty Winter - 22 Jan 2010 23:45 GMT
>-- It doesn't  have a "New Message To" command.  I miss that.

Does it do a good job of completing a recipient address if you
start to type one? I could live with that option. In fact, I
probably rely on that more than "New Message To" in 6.2.4.

Patty
BlownFuse - 23 Jan 2010 16:06 GMT
>> -- It doesn't  have a "New Message To" command.  I miss that.
>
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>
> Patty

Yes, it does a great job with address completion.  I'm not sure where
it finds the addresses -- old message, address book, maybe both -- but
there are duplicates in the list.  I agree, it's an acceptable
alternative.  And in a sense it's easier than the auto completion in
6.2.4, as each new address starts on a new line ... something like a
table.
Patty Winter - 23 Jan 2010 17:23 GMT
>Yes, it does a great job with address completion.  I'm not sure where
>it finds the addresses -- old message, address book, maybe both -- but
>there are duplicates in the list.  I agree, it's an acceptable
>alternative.  

I've never figured how how 6.2.4 memorizes addresses for completion.
I think it will complete anyone who's in my Recipient list, but beyond
that, it's unpredictable. It will refuse to recognize people I write
to every week or two, then happily complete the address for someone
I just wrote to for the first time in years!

Patty
Kathy Morgan - 23 Jan 2010 21:28 GMT
> >Yes, it does a great job with address completion.  I'm not sure where
> >it finds the addresses -- old message, address book, maybe both -- but
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> to every week or two, then happily complete the address for someone
> I just wrote to for the first time in years!

I think it's supposed to be based on addresses in the History list, but
yeah, I also find it pretty much unpredictable.

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Kathy

Arthur Evans  Jr - 24 Jan 2010 13:35 GMT
> I've never figured how how 6.2.4 memorizes addresses for completion.
> I think it will complete anyone who's in my Recipient list, but beyond
> that, it's unpredictable. It will refuse to recognize people I write
> to every week or two, then happily complete the address for someone
> I just wrote to for the first time in years!

Open the address book with Window>Address Book. Names listed there will
auto-complete.

Art Evans
Patty Winter - 24 Jan 2010 17:32 GMT
>> I've never figured how how 6.2.4 memorizes addresses for completion.
>> I think it will complete anyone who's in my Recipient list, but beyond
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Open the address book with Window>Address Book. Names listed there will
>auto-complete.

Yes, that's what I meant by the recipient list. (Although I just
remembered that the recipient list can be a subset of the address
book.) But it also autocompletes some names that aren't in my
address book. That's where the mystery lies. As Kathy noted, it
may be based on the history list. Perhaps that one friend of mine
it never autocompletes is because I write to her just infrequently
enough that her address keeps expiring from the history list.

Patty
Kathy Morgan - 23 Jan 2010 01:47 GMT
> 6.2.4 was getting a little flaky for me, so I installed 8.0b8.  Takes a
> little getting used to.
> -- It does render HTML where 6 rarely did correctly

Since you've already switched to the TBird Eudora, it's a little late to
mention this, but for those who haven't switched: Eudora 6.2.4 usually
doesn't render HTML correctly, but command-option-b  or File | Open in
browser will cause the message to open in your default browser which
usually does render the message properly.

Anecdote: I'm responsible for a library computer and installed Eudora on
it.  The librarian recently informed me that Macintoshes are
incompatible with one of our main book vendors.  Since that didn't even
make sense, I did a little digging and found that what she really meant
was that she couldn't read the HTML emails that they were sending her
and didn't know to open them in the browser.  I figured the easiest
solution was to just install SeaMonkey for her so she'd have an email
experience a little more like the Outhouse Express that she's accustomed
to.

> After a couple of days, it seems to be pretty reliable.  I was worried
> for awhile that I was losing incoming msgs, but it just wasn't that
> obvious that folders had new mail.
>
> It has a ways to go, but, for my purposes, it's an acceptable upgrade.

Thanks for the report.  I'm not ready to switch, but it's good to know
that there's an acceptable alternative when I am ready.

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Kathy

BlownFuse - 23 Jan 2010 16:10 GMT
>> 6.2.4 was getting a little flaky for me, so I installed 8.0b8.  Takes a
>> little getting used to.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> browser will cause the message to open in your default browser which
> usually does render the message properly.

I know.  I've had to use "Open in Browser" for years.  It's slower,
always opens a new window or tab (I mostly use Firefox), so lots of
panes tend to get lost.  Rendering in Eudora 8 is so much better.
Mac G - 10 Apr 2010 06:56 GMT
> Anecdote: I'm responsible for a library computer and installed Eudora on
> it.  The librarian recently informed me that Macintoshes are
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> experience a little more like the Outhouse Express that she's accustomed
> to.

When xHTML is received my Eudora 6.2.4b6  just can't handle it.   For
some strange reason they usually show as multiple Emails in my In Box
and Open In Browser isn't available.

So I either fire up Mail, of do Web Mail.
Fortunately I get very few xHTML Emails.
 
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