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allen.baum@gmail.com - 19 Jul 2008 08:15 GMT

I just tried migrating from PC Eudora (with .toc files, etc) to Mac
Eudora under MacOS 10.5 - and I can't get any of the suggestions to
work. The files were transferred via USB flash drive

The Mac version appears to use the resource fork, regardless of
whether the "use old style .toc" is checked or not. When I move the
files over, the .mbx files are recognized as Eudora files (in the
"kind" column of a finder window). . When I remove the .mbx extension,
it no longer is recognized as such.

The mailboxes I make inside Eudora, which have no extension, are
recognized as Eudora files, because the have a type/creator field of
"TEXT/CSOm" - regardless of whether the "use old style .toc" is
checked or not.

If I drop a file into the mail folder (which has been edited to change
CRLF->LF), it is not recognized as a mail folder at all.

If I change the type/creator (using the "Quick Change" utility), then
it is - but the format is bad, so the whole file is treated as a
single email message (except it really isn't the whole file, it starts
at some arbitrary place in the file)

So ... is this some Leopard incompatibility, or am I missing something
somewhere?

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Bill Cole - 26 Jul 2008 15:42 GMT

In article
<74e6243f-65f6-4ac2-aa47-2a2cba063e8e@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

> I just tried migrating from PC Eudora (with .toc files, etc) to Mac
> Eudora under MacOS 10.5 - and I can't get any of the suggestions to
> work. The files were transferred via USB flash drive

I may be wrong, but I don't believe the .toc files are portable, at
least not from Windows Eudora 7 to Mac Eudora 6.x. I believe you will
need to regenerate TOC's from the mailboxes on the Mac side.
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1644hq.html seems to support that.

> The Mac version appears to use the resource fork, regardless of
> whether the "use old style .toc" is checked or not.

Why do you believe this?

> When I move the
> files over, the .mbx files are recognized as Eudora files (in the
> "kind" column of a finder window). When I remove the .mbx extension,
> it no longer is recognized as such.

Right, and that's purely a Finder UI thing.

> The mailboxes I make inside Eudora, which have no extension, are
> recognized as Eudora files, because the have a type/creator field of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> If I drop a file into the mail folder (which has been edited to change
> CRLF->LF), it is not recognized as a mail folder at all.

Wrong conversion. Mac Eudora needs its mailboxes to be Mac text files,
i.e. bare CR line breaks. Bare LF would be Unix, and Eudora on Mac never
really adapted to MacOS being changed to a Unix base...

> If I change the type/creator (using the "Quick Change" utility), then
> it is - but the format is bad, so the whole file is treated as a
> single email message (except it really isn't the whole file, it starts
> at some arbitrary place in the file)

The type/creator change will assure that the Finder and Eudora both see
a file as belonging to Eudora, but you also need to make the line breaks
into bare CR's and probably trash the .toc files before launching Eudora
with the translated files in ~/Documents/Eudora Folder/Mail Folder. If
you've fiddled with the TOC setting to the point where you've created a
resource fork TOC, you may need to remove that as well. I think Eudora's
detection of a need to rebuild the TOC from scratch includes detecting
discrepancies between the TOC and mailbox for both file size and
modification time, so a LF->CR conversion alone may not do the trick.

Signature

Now where did I hide that website...

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John H Meyers - 26 Jul 2008 18:13 GMT

Mr. Baum appeared in two places at the same time
(and received pretty much identical answers,
although much more detailed from very thoughtful Mr. Cole :)
http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=13574

Mr. Baum had there also asserted:

> I've seen this come through before, and tried all the suggestions...

But apparently had either found only wrong suggestions,
or missed some of the details :)

It's good for more modern cross-platform programs
to work the same way and use compatible files,
but Eudora has many very substantial differences
between Windows and Mac, both operationally
and in the data formats, perhaps because there were then
"two kinds of people -- Mac people and PC people,"
and no one seemed ever likely to "cross over"
(including developers :)

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