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How to move eudora to new Mac?

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Norm - 14 Jun 2008 03:19 GMT
This is probably a "beginner" question even though I've used Eudora for
a very long time......

My old Mac has Tiger. The new Mac Leopard.

On the new Mac, I've downloaded Eudora 6.2.4 but have not launched it.

On my old Mac, I run Eudora 6.2.3.

What is best way to migrate/transfer Eudora from one machine to another?
Can I just copy my Eudora Folder from my old Mac to the new and then
start up Eudora on the new Mac from either the Folder or the application?

Thanks for any tips.
Peter Ceresole - 14 Jun 2008 07:33 GMT
> What is best way to migrate/transfer Eudora from one machine to another?
> Can I just copy my Eudora Folder from my old Mac to the new and then
> start up Eudora on the new Mac from either the Folder or the application?

That's what I have always done; I put an alias to the Settings file in a
convenient place, and always start from, that. By 'always' I mean not
just when migrating, but every time I run Eudora.

There are some gotchas inroduced in Leopard, like problems with
non-Eudora alert sounds, but they have been discussed here, they are
minor and I'm sure others will give you the details.
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Peter

AES - 14 Jun 2008 15:59 GMT
> That's what I have always done; I put an alias to the Settings file in a
> convenient place, and always start from, that. By 'always' I mean not
> just when migrating, but every time I run Eudora.

That's what I do also -- but there are potential "gotcha's":  

If you accidentally click the Eudora _app_ icon in the Dock with Eudora
not already running, and your Settings file is not in the proper default
location, you will get a complete new Settings file and the other stuff,
in the default location.

And if you click a "Mail a Copy of This Item" button in some other app
(like Safari or ???) with Eudora not already running, the same thing may
happen.
Peter Ceresole - 14 Jun 2008 17:27 GMT
> If you accidentally click the Eudora _app_ icon in the Dock with Eudora
> not already running, and your Settings file is not in the proper default
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> (like Safari or ???) with Eudora not already running, the same thing may
> happen.

You mean you sometimes *quit* Eudora? Heavens...

It has a small footprint, especially if you keep your 'In' mailbox under
control (409/1268K here) and since OS10, I don't think that apart from
restarts for system updates, Eudora has ever been off.  
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AES - 14 Jun 2008 19:18 GMT
> You mean you sometimes *quit* Eudora? Heavens...
>
> It has a small footprint, especially if you keep your 'In' mailbox under
> control (409/1268K here) and since OS10, I don't think that apart from
> restarts for system updates, Eudora has ever been off.  

I know that many people post here about leaving their Macs running
continuously for weeks/months/years on end, and that there should just
not be any problem with this.

My personal experience, however, is that very often when my MacBook
running 10.4 has gone to sleep and is subsequently awakened, not long
after there often seems to be some hang or slowdown or nonresponsive
command in one or another application, which goes away if I restart.

Can't be more specific about just when or how this happens; I have a
fairly vanilla system and no particularly bizarre applications, although
these troubles may occur more often with Acrobat, Mathematica,
Illustrator, or the like.  Also, I do use a large external Cinema
Display monitor and wireless keyboard at my desk, but also often unplug
everything to use the laptop elsewhere in the house for a while,
sometimes sleeping the system to do this, sometimes not, so the system
has to adjust to these configuration changes.

In any event, since I frequently have to shut down or restart in any
case, I just adapt to it, and shut down overnight or when I'm out of the
house.
Peter Ceresole - 14 Jun 2008 20:29 GMT
> My personal experience, however, is that very often when my MacBook
> running 10.4 has gone to sleep and is subsequently awakened, not long
> after there often seems to be some hang or slowdown or nonresponsive
> command in one or another application, which goes away if I restart.

I agree that restarting solves almost all problems, but I'm slightly
susprised that you get the problems in the first place. However, waking
from sleep is the trickiest time... Many years ago, with a TiBook and
OS10.2, I would get regular trouble on waking. Tracked it down to a
dodgy USB hub, changed the hub and have had no trouble since. I think
that USB devices and their drivers must be the first object of hatred
and fear whenever this kind of thing crops up.

The TiBook, by the way, now runs 10.3.9, and stays up for months at a
time. Sleeps overnight, obviously. Runs Eudora, Firefox and Word,
mostly, and seems happy. My wife loves it. It's networked to my iG5,
which runs 10.4.11 and also sleeps happily...
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Peter

Bill Cole - 21 Jun 2008 20:34 GMT
> > If you accidentally click the Eudora _app_ icon in the Dock with Eudora
> > not already running, and your Settings file is not in the proper default
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> control (409/1268K here) and since OS10, I don't think that apart from
> restarts for system updates, Eudora has ever been off.

Small footprint???

Not here, and my Inbox usually is nearly empty: currently 3 messages
totalling 7Kb. Eudora routinely has a virtual memory set size over 400MB
and a resident set size that starts around 50MB and creeps up over time,
leveling off around 100MB. Those routinely put it in the top 5
memory-eaters on my system along with the kernel, the WindowServer for
the current login session, and whichever web browsers I happen to be
using at the moment.

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Now where did I hide that website...

David Morrison - 23 Jun 2008 06:22 GMT
> Small footprint???
>
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> the current login session, and whichever web browsers I happen to be
> using at the moment.

Small is obviously in the eye of the beholder. Eudora here is 93MB real
memory and 1.23GB virtual. 93MB in a modern computer is pretty small -
2.3% of my RAM (4GB). And the virtual is perhaps taking up some space in
the paging file, but I'd bet most of it is simply mapping my mailboxes
for reading.

Cheers

David
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 14 Jun 2008 10:55 GMT
> What is best way to migrate/transfer Eudora from one machine to another?

Well, the best way to do any of it is to use Apple's Migration Assistant.

> Can I just copy my Eudora Folder from my old Mac to the new and then
> start up Eudora on the new Mac from either the Folder or the application?

Yes.  Just start the application.  Eudora will look to your home folder
for its Eudora Folder, and all will be well.
David Morrison - 14 Jun 2008 11:15 GMT
> > Can I just copy my Eudora Folder from my old Mac to the new and then
> > start up Eudora on the new Mac from either the Folder or the application?
>
> Yes.  Just start the application.  Eudora will look to your home folder
> for its Eudora Folder, and all will be well.

For me, the Eudora folder has always been in the Documents folder in the
home folder.

David
 
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