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I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for some reason the computer she is using (my laptop, I normally use my iMac) fails to send them. What she does (which works on her home machine) is the following: 1. move the picture file to the desktop (I'm not sure if this is needed, but it can't harm). 2. Drag the picture file into the body of the message. The picture then displays in the message. 3. Send the message. I've tried doing this on my iMac and the pictures do get sent. But on the laptop, they don't get snet. I am wondering if there is just a setting I have missed or if it is something to do with the ISP. I checked the logs, and in addition to my not receiving images she had in the email she was sending, the log clearly shows that the image was not transmitted.  Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me > for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 1. move the picture file to the desktop (I'm not sure if this is needed, > but it can't harm). It may actually cause harm... She should just drag it from where it lives to the message. The connection between Eudora and attachments (which is what this would be) can be convoluted and it is better to minimise the complications. David > > I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me > > for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > connection between Eudora and attachments (which is what this would be) > can be convoluted and it is better to minimise the complications. I'm not sure why she used that method. Though the Eudora manual refers to dragging from the desktop, not dragging it from any folder, IIRC. Anyway, dragging it from where it lives doesn't work for her either, so that isn't the issue. Thanks for your suggestion. I had at first thought that this was the issue. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > > > I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me > > > for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > 1. move the picture file to the desktop (I'm not sure if this is needed, > > > but it can't harm). IIRC, you said you did the same thing and it worked. Did your friend send the same sort of file to the same destination address? (I'm wondering whether it might be something to do with the recipient's e-mail client.) Cheers David > IIRC, you said you did the same thing and it worked. Did your friend > send the same sort of file to the same destination address? (I'm > wondering whether it might be something to do with the recipient's > e-mail client.) Sander came up with the answer. I thought it was most likely a difference in settings, but I did not know where to look. Inline images only get sent if the Styled Text setting is styled or styled and plain. With 'plain text only' the images get stripped before sending. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read >Inline images only get sent if the Styled Text setting is styled or >styled and plain. With 'plain text only' the images get stripped before >sending. Daniel, thank you for posting the solution to this problem! It had actually come up a few weeks ago, and the comment at that time was that attachments could only be dragged to the attachment header line. I just changed the Styled Text settings, and now inline graphics work fine. Patty > >Inline images only get sent if the Styled Text setting is styled or > >styled and plain. With 'plain text only' the images get stripped before [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > attachment header line. I just changed the Styled Text settings, > and now inline graphics work fine. But in my experience, there can also be recipients whose mail clients cannot handle inline photos . . . ? And also, not all image formats will go into Eurora inline . . . ? (JPEG and PDF will, TIFF and GIF won't?) > But in my experience, there can also be recipients whose mail clients > cannot handle inline photos . . . ? And also, not all image formats > will go into Eurora inline . . . ? (JPEG and PDF will, TIFF and GIF > won't?) GIFs do go inline (at least some of them), as my friend has recently sent me one. I'm not sure what happens if the client can't handle inline photos. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > GIFs do go inline (at least some of them), as my friend has recently > sent me one. Sorry -- I think I got mixed up between what will go into TextEdit RTF documents and what will go into Eudora (or maybe I'm mixed up about both of these). > >Inline images only get sent if the Styled Text setting is styled or > >styled and plain. With 'plain text only' the images get stripped before [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > attachment header line. I just changed the Styled Text settings, > and now inline graphics work fine. I was actually quoting Sander, who provided the solution for me. So thanks go to him, not me. But glad you can now do what you wanted to do. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me > for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 1. move the picture file to the desktop (I'm not sure if this is needed, > but it can't harm). Well, like most things, it could harm if you're not exactly sure what you're doing. Dragging can be a move or a copy, depending on the context (dragging across volumes or not; holding modifier keys or not). So at least with "moves" across volumes, which really are copy&deletes, [1] a user who isn't conscious of that may be creating a mess, and [2] if you move the file again before Eudora has sent it, Eudora won't be able to find it and thus not send it. (Although IIRC in that case Eudora will bring up an error message.) (Btw, if the Eudora documentation specifically speaks of "dragging from the desktop", this might be a case of fuzzy terminology: some of us consider there to be a difference between "The Desktop", and "The Desktop folder".) > 2. Drag the picture file into the body of the message. The picture then > displays in the message. > 3. Send the message. > > I've tried doing this on my iMac and the pictures do get sent. But on > the laptop, they don't get snet. Sending attachments inline is a form of "styled text" (it relies on abusing HTML). So if under Settings->Styled Text you have "Send plaintext mail only" selected, everything that is "styled text" is converted to plain text before sending. In the case of "inline attachments" that means they'll be stripped. I have Eudora set to "Send plaintext mail only" (because everything else is unreliable in the real world), but have the option "Ask each time" checked, so that whenever I *do* want to send an inline attachment (when I know the receiver actually wants that and can handle it), I get asked what I want and can override the default easily. You can of course instead just set it to "send plain and styled both" without having Eudora ask you each time, but IMO you should never ever send anything other than plain text unless you know for a fact that the recipient appreciates HTML messages, and has the tools to handle them. (Note that it's often not easy to know whether you are creating HTML message. For instance, when you copy&paste text from another app, you may be inserting styled text without realizing it; without meaning to. I find it comfortable to let Eudora convert everything to plain text automagically, except when I *know* I want to send HTML.) HTH SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > > What she does (which works on her home machine) is the following: > > 1. move the picture file to the desktop (I'm not sure if this is needed, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > find it and thus not send it. (Although IIRC in that case Eudora will > bring up an error message.) yes, I was aware of issues that would occur if the file was moved before sending. That bit was easy! > > 2. Drag the picture file into the body of the message. The picture then > > displays in the message. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > converted to plain text before sending. In the case of "inline > attachments" that means they'll be stripped. Thank you. That turns out to be the answer. I've just tried doing what she did before, but with styled text turned on, and the image did get through. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > > I usually send pictures as attachments. I have a friend staying with me > > for some time who prefers to send them in the body of the email. But for [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > find it and thus not send it. (Although IIRC in that case Eudora will > bring up an error message.) Yet another possibility is that only an alias is being created, rather than copying or moving the file. Attempting to send the alias (rather than the actual file) isn't going to work. SignatureKathy |
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