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Mac Forum / Applications / Eudora / April 2008How to "zero out" the Junk detector?
Hi all... One of my users showed me that their Junk folder was full of Junk marked as "99" that was coming from real users (and not flagged as junk by our internal SPAM headers. I thought perhaps he was filtering users incorrectly, but he has no filters either. So... Where is the file that contains the "trainable" junk filter information for Mac Eudora? I'll want to delete that to see if that resolves the problem for him. Thanks! - Steve > Hi all... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > information for Mac Eudora? I'll want to delete that to see if that > resolves the problem for him. You can send things to junk with command J, and tell it that things are not junk with command option J. I believe it learns from these actions.  SignatureJim > You can send things to junk with command J, and tell it that things are > not junk with command option J. I believe it learns from these actions. Right -- but it must have be "trained" incorrectly -- otherwise it wouldn't be flagging/scoring mail as "99" that's clearly not junk. Is this file within the application package? - Steve > > You can send things to junk with command J, and tell it that things are > > not junk with command option J. I believe it learns from these actions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is this file within the application package? There are some "Junk" preferences settings, right? Maybe if you turn all of these off; run for a while with them off; then turn them back on, the past history effects will get erased . . . ??? > Is this file within the application package? The user "training" file (in your own Eudora folder) should be called "UserJunkDB" (same as in Windows), according to http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/6.0/Release_Notes.txt I presume that the above file would be regenerated (empty) if the original were renamed or deleted, the same as are all other user files, as needed. The initial database installed with Eudora might be called "StaticJunkDB" (that's its Windows name, anyway). These files, although plain text, should not be manually edited. -- > > Is this file within the application package? > > The user "training" file (in your own Eudora folder) > should be called "UserJunkDB" (same as in Windows), according to > http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/6.0/Release_Notes.txt But it's not in an obvious place. It sits in Eudora Items/Plugins/SpamWatch. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > It sits in Eudora Items/Plugins/SpamWatch. That's what I needed. Thanks! - Steve > Hi all... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I thought perhaps he was filtering users incorrectly, but he has no > filters either. Why not just select all these good messages and "unjunk" them. This will retrain the spam system to recognise that sort of message as not junk. Ok, so it might not happen instantaneously, but it will eventually learn. BTW, I very rarely see any spam with a rating as high as 99. It only happens when I specifically say a message is junk. Could this person be using Command-J to filter messages? That's what it used to do before it became the keystroke to mark a message as junk. David > BTW, I very rarely see any spam with a rating as high as 99. It only > happens when I specifically say a message is junk. Could this person be > using Command-J to filter messages? That's what it used to do before it > became the keystroke to mark a message as junk. That's odd. I quite frequently get spam with junk scores of 99, and indeed, they are almost always genuine 100% pure spam. I wonder if we're doing something differently, or if my spam is just more spammy than yours? Roberta SignatureRoberta Millstein usenet@spamaway.rlm.net Remove "spamaway" to reply ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > > BTW, I very rarely see any spam with a rating as high as 99. It only > > happens when I specifically say a message is junk. Could this person be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > we're doing something differently, or if my spam is just more spammy > than yours? Does your ISP flag messages that may be spam? If so, it probably adds something to the message indicating that it is spam, and maybe Eudora is recognising that and setting the rating to 99. I have disabled my ISP's spam detection and just use Eudora's method. OTOH, maybe you really are a better target for spammers!!!!! Cheers David > > > BTW, I very rarely see any spam with a rating as high as 99. It only > > > happens when I specifically say a message is junk. Could this person be [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > something to the message indicating that it is spam, and maybe Eudora is > recognising that and setting the rating to 99. Ah, yes, that must be it. At least it seems to be the case for the few 99s that have come in since you posted. > I have disabled my ISP's > spam detection and just use Eudora's method. My university doesn't give me the option of turning off the flagging, only the option of turning off their own junk folders (which I do). Still, though, it does seem to be working for the most part, so I don't really have too many complaints. > OTOH, maybe you really are a better target for spammers!!!!! Ugh. A depressing thought! Roberta SignatureRoberta Millstein usenet@spamaway.rlm.net Remove "spamaway" to reply ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > > BTW, I very rarely see any spam with a rating as high as 99. It only > > happens when I specifically say a message is junk. Could this person be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Roberta Message flagged as "99" are messages that usually have an ISP's SPAM header in them that Eudora automatically detects. For example, we use DSPAM here, so if that system flags a message as: X-DSPAM-Result: SPAM Eudora is automatically detecting this. (Which is one of the things "Eudora 8" doesn't do yet...) - Steve |
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