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Default Eudora file locations and settings docs?

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AES - 01 Apr 2008 19:48 GMT
Is there a way to ensure that Eudora will always, for sure, open using a
single default settings file and other related mail files, other than
locating (and naming) all these files properly?  And, what are the
proper locations?  

A not-too-computer-savvy neighbor set up Eudora 6.2.3 on his
MacBook Pro under Leopard with some nonstandard file locations:

*  His "Eudora Folder" was stored in the Macintosh HD:Applications
folder, right under the "Eudora Application Folder," instead of in the
Users:XYZ:Documents folder, which is where it's supposed to be
(right?).

*  His Eudora Settings file was renamed as "Eudora Setting XYZ" (XYZ
being his initials).  This settings file was dragged into the documents
portion of his Dock, so he could use it to start Eudora, and the Eudora
app itself was also dragged into the applications portion of his dock.

So then:

*  He initially started up Eudora by clicking the settings file icon in
the Dock and sending and receiving emails, and all was OK.

*  At some point, however, he started up Eudora after a shutdown by
clicking the Eudora app icon in the Dock.  Presumably at this point
Eudora created a whole new Eudora Folder with the associated files for
him, in his Documents folder -- **and he didn't realize this was
happening**, and happily used that set of mailboxes for a while.  

*  And then, at some point he came back after being away from the
machine for a while, clicked the settings icon in the Dock, and went
back to his old set of mail files.

*  Beyond this, at some point he mailed a foto to someone from within
iPhoto, telling iPhoto to use Eudora and -- well, it's not really clear
what happened at that point, but I think it used the 2nd Eudora Folder.

Net result; chaos.  I think I have the mess cleaned up, but to avoid
repeat problems I'd like to be sure on a few key points:

*  The Eudora Folder for v6 onward may not **have* to be located in the
user's Documents folder and named "Eudora Folder" -- but it **should**
be to avoid trouble -- right?

*  Does the Eudora Settings file have to be named just "Eudora
Settings"?  Or can it be re-named something like "Eudora Settings XYZ"
so long as it's in the correct Eudora Folder (and no other settings
files are present)?

*  Is there any way in Eudora itself, or in Eudora prefs, to specify a
default settings file, such that starting up Eudora will *always* use
that settings file, regardless of anything else?  (I've not found any
such setting.)

*  Does iPhoto have a setting or preference such that emailing a foto
will use not only a selected mailer, but a selected settings document
for that mailer?  (I don't think it does.)

Thanks for any clarifications . . .
Kathy Morgan - 02 Apr 2008 00:12 GMT
> Is there a way to ensure that Eudora will always, for sure, open using a
> single default settings file and other related mail files, other than
> locating (and naming) all these files properly?  And, what are the
> proper locations?  

The settings file and related mail files should be in a folder name
Eudora Folder, located in the ~/Documents folder.  Alternately, you can
put the folder anywhere you like, but put an alias of the folder in
~/Documents.  The alias should have the name "Eudora Folder" (not
"Eudora Folder Alias").

> *  His Eudora Settings file was renamed as "Eudora Setting XYZ" (XYZ
> being his initials).  This settings file was dragged into the documents
> portion of his Dock, so he could use it to start Eudora, and the Eudora
> app itself was also dragged into the applications portion of his dock.

To avoid his creating more chaos down the line, pull the Eudora app out
of the applications portion of this dock.  (It will disappear in a very
satisfying pouf of smoke, which is fine because it's really only an
alias.)

> *  Does the Eudora Settings file have to be named just "Eudora
> Settings"?  Or can it be re-named something like "Eudora Settings XYZ"
> so long as it's in the correct Eudora Folder (and no other settings
> files are present)?

I don't know.

> *  Is there any way in Eudora itself, or in Eudora prefs, to specify a
> default settings file, such that starting up Eudora will *always* use
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> will use not only a selected mailer, but a selected settings document
> for that mailer?  (I don't think it does.)

Not that I'm aware of, to both of these questions.

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Kathy

AES - 02 Apr 2008 03:38 GMT
> . . . applications portion of this dock.  (It will disappear in a very
> satisfying pouf of smoke, which is fine because it's really only an
> alias.)

You've introduced us (or me, anyway) to a wonderful new phrase!

"Puff of smoke" has  ‰340,000 Google hits.

"Pouf of smoke" has exactly 28.

But I like "pouf" a lot better -- just sounds right for this usage (even
if the dictionary definition of pouf doesn't seem to fit this usage very
well at all).
David Morrison - 12 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT
> > . . . applications portion of this dock.  (It will disappear in a very
> > satisfying pouf of smoke, which is fine because it's really only an
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> if the dictionary definition of pouf doesn't seem to fit this usage very
> well at all).

Is pouf a combination of puff and poof? A shorthand for something going
"poof!" and disappearing in a "puff of smoke" ;-)

For an exposition of the meanings of the word poof, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poof

David
Peter Ceresole - 02 Apr 2008 04:43 GMT
> > *  Does the Eudora Settings file have to be named just "Eudora
> > Settings"?  Or can it be re-named something like "Eudora Settings XYZ"
> > so long as it's in the correct Eudora Folder (and no other settings
> > files are present)?
>
> I don't know.

I run Eudora 6.1.1 (and see no great reason to change) in Light mode,
using several different Settings files for different ISPs. I always
start Eudora by opening the relevant settings file. The settings file
can have any name I like (e.g. 'Demon POP3 Settings' and 'Bluewin
settings') and they work fine.

I have them stored in my Eudora Folder, and run them from aliases kept
somewhere convenient- although in fact I always run them using Keyboard
Maestro. I never run Eudora by clicking in the Dock.
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Peter

J.P. Kuypers - 02 Apr 2008 09:24 GMT
In article (Dans l'article)
<siegman-58C53E.11484001042008@nntp.stanford.edu>, AES
<siegman@stanford.edu> wrote (écrivait) :

> A not-too-computer-savvy neighbor set up Eudora 6.2.3 on his
> MacBook Pro under Leopard with some nonstandard file locations

The Eudora User Guide
<http://www.eudora.com/download/eudora/mac/6.2.4/Eudora_6.2.4_Mac_User_G
uide.pdf> has some tips in the "Putting Multiple Users on One
Macintosh" topic (page 413) maybe useful.

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Jean-Pierre Kuypers

Lewis - 04 Apr 2008 08:23 GMT
> *  Is there any way in Eudora itself, or in Eudora prefs, to specify a
> default settings file, such that starting up Eudora will *always* use
> that settings file, regardless of anything else?  (I've not found any
> such setting.)

Unless this changed dramatically in 6.2.x, no.

I do have to say that using Eudora in 2008 is downright silly.

And let the flamewar commence....

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"Woof bloody woof."

 
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