Problems with quoting in Eudora 6.2.4

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Hauke Fath - 21 Feb 2008 14:33 GMT

All,

I am runnning Eudora 6.2.4 / MacOS X 10.4.ff here in light mode, and it
gives me a few headaches which I don't really know how to tackle. I have
even deleted the preferences file, and manually reconstructed my
configuration, but without effect.

First one is f=f ("format=flowed"):

It used to be that Eudora gave you grey bars marking quoted passages in
f=f mails. Those bars seem to have gone away at some point. But on top
of that, 6.2.4 here does not even properly wrap quoted paragraphs when
replying to f=f mails - I see a '>' at the beginning of the paragraph,
and have to wrap it by marking and 'Edit::Wrap Selection'. I don't care
much either way about the grey bars, but having to wrap quoted passages
by hand is 'late eighties'. No amount of twiddling x-eudora settings
fixes that for me.

Second one is related, replying to HTML mail:

As I found out a while back, all versions of Eudora silently do away
with the plain text part of a multipart message, and only offer the HTML
part. This gets obviously painful with the proliferation of CSS, where
the first page of a mail as displayed by Eudora is filled with
gibberish.

Now, when I reply to a HTML mail, the quoted passages get a black side
bar in the composition window. But, since it is a Light version, no HTML
is sent out, instead the passages that were displayed as quoted are
silently inlined! Not even Copy & Paste as Quotation seems to help here
since the text retains any markup in the clipboard. This seems to be a
partial spill-over of HTML mail functionality from the full/sponsored
feature set, which I am not keen on.

What are your experiences? Any workarounds, fixes?

Thanks,
hauke

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Patty Winter - 21 Feb 2008 17:56 GMT

>I am runnning Eudora 6.2.4 / MacOS X 10.4.ff here in light mode, and it
>gives me a few headaches which I don't really know how to tackle. I have
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>It used to be that Eudora gave you grey bars marking quoted passages in
>f=f mails. Those bars seem to have gone away at some point.

Hauke, this probably won't make you feel any better, but I'm running
Eudora 6.2.4 on Mac OS X v10.2.8, and the bars are working just fine
on format=flowed messages. I just checked a message that had two layers
of quoted text; in mutt on UNIX, the text had one or two ">"s, depending
on what layer it was. In Eudora, it has one or two black bars.

>But on top
>of that, 6.2.4 here does not even properly wrap quoted paragraphs when
>replying to f=f mails - I see a '>' at the beginning of the paragraph,
>and have to wrap it by marking and 'Edit::Wrap Selection'.

I have that problem sometimes with messages from certain people, but
I think only in mutt, not Eudora. Sorry, I can't remember for sure.

Patty

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Christian - 23 Feb 2008 12:26 GMT

> Hauke, this probably won't make you feel any better, but I'm running
> Eudora 6.2.4 on Mac OS X v10.2.8, and the bars are working just fine
> on format=flowed messages. I just checked a message that had two layers
> of quoted text; in mutt on UNIX, the text had one or two ">"s, depending
> on what layer it was. In Eudora, it has one or two black bars.

Check what the X-Eudora-settings in your installation are telling you
about f=f.

From the Eudora documentation, I think these are the settings to look
at:

<x-eudora-setting:260>
These settings control when Eudora will interpret or generate
format=flowed. Set to 1 to turn off completely.

<x-eudora-setting:5903>
This is the quote character to use when doing format=flowed. It must be
either '>' or '> '.

<x-eudora-setting:7419>
Number of chars at which to wrap messages when not doing format=flowed.

<x-eudora-setting:8402>
Lines shorter than this will not be wrapped when not doing
format=flowed.

<x-eudora-setting:12707>
Lines shorter than this will not be wrapped when doing format=flowed.

<x-eudora-setting:12708>
Number of chars at which to wrap messages when doing format=flowed.

To check or change the settings, do the following:

1) Open a new, empty text window in Eudora (menu "File -> Open new Text
document(

2) copy and paste (or type) the whole text including the brackets into
the new document.

3) If the settings text is copied properly, it becomes a clickable link.
Click it and a dialog to inspect or change the settings will come up.

Best wishes, Christian

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Hauke Fath - 28 Feb 2008 16:22 GMT

> Check what the X-Eudora-settings in your installation are telling you
> about f=f.
>
> From the Eudora documentation, I think these are the settings to look
> at:

[...]

Thanks for the hints - unfortunately, I've been over the listed
x-eudora-settings (and the f=f related docs from Qualcomm) several
times. I've tried again, with predictable result: No change.

Maybe I'll create a new user, and set up an account from scratch...

hauke

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