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morenuf - 03 Jan 2008 19:06 GMT

As of Jan 2008 I am suddenly getting an error with Eudora on my G4 PPC
Mac.

It says:

"You are connected to a server which returned this SSl certificate that
is not in your keychain. Would you like to add it to your keychain?"

The only choice are CANCEL and OKAY. Neither one will stop the error.
It keeps coming up every time it checks mail.

It appears to be related to pop.gmail.com error from checking for mail
at GMAIL at Google.com.

My Eudora 6.24 is running on my G4 933 MHz Quicksilver with OS X
10.4.10, and just started the error with the new year 2008. Every time
it checks mail this error comes up. My Eudora is set to check email at
several server POP accounts, one of which is Google GMAIL.

It appear the error is directly related to pop.gmail.com.

If I click CANCEL or OK Eudora goes ahead and checks email just fine.
But the error returns the next check again and again. Eudora seems to be
getting mail just fine from other accounts.

What do I do to correct this?

I do not really use Keychain and never have. Must I set something there
to correct this?

I would appreciate comments or suggestions. Thanks.

Morenuf

I hope is this is not portents of things to come with Eudora for Mac
being orphaned and abandoned on OSX. I have used Eudora since 1990 or so
and don't really want to leave it. Sigh.

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Darrell Greenwood - 03 Jan 2008 23:24 GMT

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> I would appreciate comments or suggestions. Thanks.

Check your settings under Special -> Settings -> SSL

Cheers,

Darrell

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morenuf - 04 Jan 2008 02:38 GMT

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> Darrell

thanks. I am checking those now.

I should have said I set up POP access in Eudora for GMAIL access via
POP & read them in Eudora more than a year or two ago and it has worked
just fine until Jan 1 2008 when the SSL certificate error dialog started
showing up in Eudora.

I did send a test message from another account to the GMAIL account, and
the test email did show up on GMAIL when checking by the web access, but
it is not being downloaded (I no indication there is an email in GMAIL)
in Eudora via POP no matter whether I click CANCEL or OK on the dialog
about the SSL certificate error.

I will check gmail.com to confirm their suggested settings ( I have not
made ANY changes in those successful for the past two years settings)
are still correct per their documentation. I have made no changes in
Eudora settings myself.

Something has changed. The problem(s) can be with:

Eudora 6.24 (I have made no changes)
SSL (I made no changes but gmail could have)
Gmail.com made changes
OSX (I have made no changes or updates)
Keychain (which I have never really used)

or just some security certificate expired (I have no way to know what to
change or correct for that).

I am running OSX 10.4.10 (I have made no changes in that either, ie no
security updates which can be problematic sometimes).

The only thing that makes sense is the date, Jan 1 2008 rolled around
and a SSL certificate expired which I have no idea how to correct. For
the time being, I can't access my GMAIL via Eudora using POP which I
have done for more than a year or two successfully.

Thanks again. Comments & suggestions welcome.

Morenuf

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morenuf - 04 Jan 2008 04:11 GMT

> I will check gmail.com to confirm their suggested settings ( I have not
> made ANY changes in those successful for the past two years settings)
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> Morenuf

I got it working. Something mucked up with Keychains it seems.

I did check all Google GMAIL settings and all was well.
Eudora settings all was well.

Keychain was corrupted somehow. I never used it and don't really know
much about it.

It had no keychains but said in had a UNKNOWN KEYCHAIN locked. I could
not unlock it, but found in LIST keychains, some they too would not show
or load and I guess locked. It would not let me add new keychains or
even delete the odd ones.

I finally manually found the keychain files in ~/library/keychains/ and
deleted all of them including backups.

I had at sometime in the past (2006 or so) experimented with iPasswd and
some other keychain utility which had made some files and or changes
including creating a iPaswd.keychain, all of which were inaccessible.

After deleting all the keychain files manually in ~/library/keychains/,
and REBOOTING new login keychains (2 of them and a X509 anchors ) were
made and now show in KEYCHAIN ACCESS application utility.

NOW Eudora is working (with no input or changes on my part) with GMAIL
accessed in Eudora via POP. Test email to GMAIL works and shows in both
Eudora and on GMAIL web access page. Somehow the new certificate was
automatically accepted (I was not asked).

All this mess occurred just with the new date Jan 1 2008.

Since 2006 it had been working just fine. Apparently the expired SSL
certificate triggered the whole mess as the keychains (which I had never
used other than the experiment with iPassword) was seemingly corrupted
and or locked.

My ignorance (and non use) of KEYCHAINS no doubt contributed.

Thanks to all.

Morenuf

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Kathy Morgan - 04 Jan 2008 05:40 GMT

> I got it working. Something mucked up with Keychains it seems.
>
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> Keychain was corrupted somehow. I never used it and don't really know
> much about it.

[snip description of cure for problem]

I'm just glad you got it working again. I'm saving your post, just in
case I have problems again in future with my keychains and Eudora. (It
has happened to me, but I've forgotten the exact details.) Keychains
seem to be rather prone to corruption; a person probably should make a
backup while things are working well. If a person knew just what files
she ought to be backing up....

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similar forum, NNTP "newsreaders" are a better way to access the
content. <http://www.aptalaska.net/~kmorgan/how-it-works.html>
Links to NNTP newsreaders at <http://www.newsreaders.com/>

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Darrell Greenwood - 04 Jan 2008 20:13 GMT

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> If a person knew just what files
> she ought to be backing up....

/Users/'yourname'/Library/Keychains

Cheers,

Darrell

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Kathy Morgan - 05 Jan 2008 17:04 GMT

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> /Users/'yourname'/Library/Keychains

Thanks!

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Sander Tekelenburg - 05 Jan 2008 02:09 GMT

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> a person probably should make a
> backup while things are working well. If a person knew just what files
> she ought to be backing up....

A person just needs to know to backup their entire home folder ;) (Well,
you could exclude ~/Library/Caches if you'd want to.)

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Daniel Cohen - 05 Jan 2008 14:21 GMT

> A person just needs to know to backup their entire home folder ;) (Well,
> you could exclude ~/Library/Caches if you'd want to.)

And probably ~/Library/Logs too, as the logs are mostly useful when
things aren't going well.

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Kathy Morgan - 05 Jan 2008 17:04 GMT

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> A person just needs to know to backup their entire home folder ;) (Well,
> you could exclude ~/Library/Caches if you'd want to.)

Good advice, and that reminds me that I recently bought SuperDuper, a
backup utility that looks really good, but I haven't yet fully learned
how to use it. I did start off by making a bootable backup on an
external firewire drive. Now I just need to sit down and read the full
manual and learn how to do regular backups of changed files.

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Jim Gibson - 07 Jan 2008 18:32 GMT

> > ...that reminds me that I recently bought SuperDuper, a
> backup utility that looks really good, but I haven't yet fully learned
> how to use it. I did start off by making a bootable backup on an
> external firewire drive. Now I just need to sit down and read the full
> manual and learn how to do regular backups of changed files.

It's not that hard, Kathy. You have already figured out how to do a
full backup. Now just select the "Options" button and pick "Smart
Update Backup from Macintosh HD"(or whatever your start-up disk is
named) from the "During copy" pop-up menu and "Do Nothing" from the "On
successful completion" pop-up menu, then "OK". Then select the
"Schedule" button and select the days of the week and time that you
want the backup to run and "OK". Your scheduled incremental backups
should start running at the first opportunity. No manual needed!

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John H Meyers - 05 Jan 2008 12:11 GMT

Possibly related (keychain issues):

http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2310hq.html

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306862
(this reference originally provided by Sander Tekelenburg)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.mac/msg/231ddfa3547df07a

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