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tsunami® - 14 Dec 2007 16:52 GMT
Can someone tell me the keyboard command for id'ing which filter has
effected a particular message?
Peter Ceresole - 14 Dec 2007 16:57 GMT
<=?ISO-8859-1?Q?tsunami=AE?=> wrote:

> Can someone tell me the keyboard command for id'ing which filter has
> effected a particular message?

In the list view, highlight the message, then holding down shift, go
Window->Filters.

The filters that acted on the message will be highlighted.
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John H Meyers - 14 Dec 2007 18:45 GMT
>> Can someone tell me the keyboard command for id'ing
>> which filter has affected a particular message?

> In the list view, highlight the message,
> then holding down shift, go Window->Filters.
>
> The filters that acted on the message will be highlighted.

Is this done by remembering a history of past filtering,
or by trying to predict what filters _would_ act on the message?

A difficulty with the latter is that filters are assigned
properties to act at different times, including any combination
of "Incoming" (action occurs only after retrieving from server),
"Outgoing" (action occurs only after transmitting to SMTP server),
and/or "Manual" (action occurs only upon manual "filter" command).

The procedure above can not actually know which of those conditions
was (or will be) met at the actual time of filtering,
in which case the question might arise,
how does Eudora proceed to match those filtering types
to the message being examined now, or does it simply
highlight all filters which might *ever* act on the message?

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Peter Ceresole - 14 Dec 2007 18:57 GMT
> Is this done by remembering a history of past filtering,
> or by trying to predict what filters _would_ act on the message?

It's a history. I don't *think* it can do predictive filtering, although
I've never tried.
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John H Meyers - 14 Dec 2007 22:41 GMT
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:57:56 -0600:

JHM
>> Is this done by remembering a history of past filtering,
>> or by trying to predict what filters _would_ act on the message?

Peter Ceresole
> It's a history. I don't *think* it can do predictive filtering,
> although I've never tried.

The reason I asked is that I've read opinions in this group
that only the logging function can tell you what *did* occur,
while this feature *predicts* what filters *would* act, e.g.:

Author "S.T."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.mac/msg/ba9222383bfa67d6
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.mac/msg/bc648d07f85745d7

Author "B.F."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.mac/msg/02ae3a8bc21bbc7e

Based on what I said earlier,
it appears to me that although one could identify which filters
*might* act upon any as yet unfiltered message, you would
have to also then consider under which circumstances (receiving,
sending, or manual filtering) the filtering *would* be occurring,
to more precisely know which filters *will* actually act at all.

The fact that you can change filters (and even edit some messages)
after filtering has already occurred, and that filter names
can also apparently be duplicated, also cast a bit of doubt
on being able to identify current filters in the filters window,
based on past history, although you could check any detailed log
to see a "trace" of what had happened in the past.

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Sander Tekelenburg - 15 Dec 2007 05:12 GMT
> > Is this done by remembering a history of past filtering,
> > or by trying to predict what filters _would_ act on the message?
>
> It's a history.

No it isn't and never has been.

The only reason there is still confusion about this is that typically
people ask for a filter history, and this filter 'prediction' feature of
Eudora is the closest thing to what they asked for (or, more often, it
is exactly what they actually meant to ask for :)).

>  I don't *think* it can do predictive filtering, although
> I've never tried.

Then try it ;)

Select any message. Create a new filter that would have *a*ffected that
message ("if Subject ==" or something like that), put it at the top of
your filters list. Now with the message selected or open, open the
Filters Window while the Shift key's down. You'll see your newly created
filter selected, even though you know it didn't yet exist when you
received that message, 8 yeara ago.

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