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Mac Forum / Applications / Eudora / August 2007Install Eudora for multiple users on the same Mac
Hi, I just got a Mac for the first time and want to install Eudora on it. I've used Eudora on PC's for over 10 years. I want to setup 3 different user accounts on the Mac and have each user's email files separate from the other users. I have also setup one account solely for administration purposes. I'm not really conversant with the in's and out's of installing an application once in the mac environment and having separate user date for each user.. Can I do this with Eudora, or will I be forced to install Eudora three times, once into each user space? If it can be installed only once and shared, could you please tell me how to do this? Thanks. > each user.. Can I do this with Eudora, or will I be forced to install Eudora > three times, once into each user space? I'd be pretty sure you can set up one copy of the Eudora app, in the Applications folder, then create one "settings" file for each user located somewhere (anywhere) in their user space. In my experience at least, Eudora by default likes to put this settings file and a whole bunch of other Eudora user-related stuff -- including that user's mailboxes themselves, filters, nickname files, etc. -- in a file called "Eudora Folder" which is then in that user's "Documents" folder. Each user should then start up (but only one at a time -- I think?) from their settings file (which can be given a distinctive name if they wish) -- in fact they should always do so. That settings file, or an alias to it, can be put in the Dock; or an alias on the desktop; or wherever. [The Eudora Folder, with all its contents, can also be put anywhere else, and used in the same way. But if any user then starts up Eudora from the app itself, they risk having Eudora create a whole new, virgin "Eudora Folder" and virgin settings file in the Documents folder.] > In my experience at least, Eudora by default likes to put this settings > file and a whole bunch of other Eudora user-related stuff -- including > that user's mailboxes themselves, filters, nickname files, etc. -- in a > file called "Eudora Folder" which is then in that user's "Documents" > folder. Correct. > Each user should then start up (but only one at a time -- I think?) from > their settings file (which can be given a distinctive name if they wish) > -- in fact they should always do so. That settings file, or an alias to > it, can be put in the Dock; or an alias on the desktop; or wherever. Incorrect. That was how you did it back when the OS didn't do multiple users. That's no longer the case. Simply launch Eudora, and it will go to the active user's home directory, to the Eudora Folder, and find what it needs for that particular active user. With fast user switching, multiple users can be active at once--and Eudora handles that just like it's supposed to. > > Each user should then start up (but only one at a time -- I think?) from > > their settings file (which can be given a distinctive name if they wish) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to the active user's home directory, to the Eudora Folder, and find what > it needs for that particular active user. We're getting arcane here, but I believe if a user starts up the Eudora app for the first time, supplies all the initialization information it asks for, maybe edits some of its settings, uses it a bit, and Quits Eudora, Eudora will have created a "Eudora Folder" including all of that user's newly created settings and mailboxes, in that user's Documents folder. If the user moves this Eudora Folder elsewhere and then starts up from the settings file that was created in it (in its new location), the user will still have all the settings and mail that was created up to that point, and Eudora will function as if the Eudora Folder hadn't been moved at all. If the user does the same thing except that after moving the Eudora Folder to a new location the user opens the Eudora _application_, Eudora will not recognize the initially created Eudora Folder. Rather, it will create a _new_ "virgin" Eudora folder with a new settings file, again in the user's Documentation folder, and start asking the user all the initialization questions all over again. The user will not see the mail that was received or sent in the initial run. If the user Quits out of this initialization process; deletes this new Eudora Folder from Documents; and moves the initial Eudora Folder back into the Documents folder, the user can then start either from the initial settings file or from the Eudora app, and all of the initially created stuff will be there. I just did a quick test which behaved in just this way. > > each user.. Can I do this with Eudora, or will I be forced to install Eudora > > three times, once into each user space? > > I'd be pretty sure you can set up one copy of the Eudora app, in the > Applications folder, then create one "settings" file for each user > located somewhere (anywhere) in their user space. There's no need to do that consciously. Eudora creates the settings and user mail storage inside the user's home directory automatically on OS X. > In my experience at least, Eudora by default likes to put this settings > file and a whole bunch of other Eudora user-related stuff -- including > that user's mailboxes themselves, filters, nickname files, etc. -- in a > file called "Eudora Folder" which is then in that user's "Documents" > folder. Exactly, and that's unique for each user. > Each user should then start up (but only one at a time -- I think?) No need. If you use fast user switching to have multiple users logged in, the background users need not quit Eudora and if you use something like VNC to allow those users to use the system remotely as someone else is actually sitting in front of the machine, they can all use Edora simultaneously. But that's a pretty rare and arcane setup.... >from > their settings file (which can be given a distinctive name if they wish) No need for starting from the specific settings file or to use a distinctive name, since each user has their own home directory under which all of their settings and mail are stored by default. > -- in fact they should always do so. That settings file, or an alias to > it, can be put in the Dock; or an alias on the desktop; or wherever. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > from the app itself, they risk having Eudora create a whole new, virgin > "Eudora Folder" and virgin settings file in the Documents folder.] Starting from a settings file is really an 'old school' approach born under classical MacOS. Under MacOS X, it is not needed.  SignatureNow where did I hide that website... > > each user.. Can I do this with Eudora, or will I be forced to install Eudora > > three times, once into each user space? > > I'd be pretty sure you can set up one copy of the Eudora app, in the > Applications folder, then create one "settings" file for each user > located somewhere (anywhere) in their user space. Yes, we do this. > In my experience at least, Eudora by default likes to put this settings > file and a whole bunch of other Eudora user-related stuff -- including > that user's mailboxes themselves, filters, nickname files, etc. -- in a > file called "Eudora Folder" which is then in that user's "Documents" > folder. You can move it where you like. > Each user should then start up (but only one at a time -- I think?) No, we do it simultaneously. > from > their settings file (which can be given a distinctive name if they wish) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from the app itself, they risk having Eudora create a whole new, virgin > "Eudora Folder" and virgin settings file in the Documents folder.] > Hi, > > I just got a Mac for the first time and want to install Eudora on it. I've > used Eudora on PC's for over 10 years. You may have a problem *getting* Eudora. > I want to setup 3 different user accounts on the Mac and have each user's > email files separate from the other users. I have also setup one account [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it can be installed only once and shared, could you please tell me how to > do this? Just install it and use it. Mac applications are normally installed into /Applications, a shared area. All user data is kept in the user home directories under /Users and non-administrative users don't have the ability to write files much of anywhere other than their own home directories. Eudora (like essentially every Mac app other than system utilities) keeps all of its preferences and data in subdirectories of standard subdirectories of each user's home directory. SignatureNow where did I hide that website... See the folder "Eudora Documentation" if it was installed along with the application. If not, maybe it is still on the install disk. In the "Quick Start Guide" should be a section on installing Eudora, and one on configuring Eudora. |
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