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Yvonne - 27 May 2007 18:05 GMT
I've used Eudora for over 10 years and am currently running 6.2.4 on an
MacBookPro (Intel) 10.4.9.  I use an airport network at home.  When I
travel (specifically to a place in San Francisco where I stay once a
month) and access the free (wifi) network I can get all mail just fine
but I can't send mail from Eudora.  I can send from the comcast.net web
site.  With Eudora the mail keeps trying to send and eventually "domain
not found".

Do I need to change any settings in Eudora to get mail to send?

TIA!
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Yvonne
Sonoma, CA.

Alice Faber - 27 May 2007 18:08 GMT
> I've used Eudora for over 10 years and am currently running 6.2.4 on an
> MacBookPro (Intel) 10.4.9.  I use an airport network at home.  When I
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> Do I need to change any settings in Eudora to get mail to send?

Some ISPs don't let you send mail through their SMTP server unless
you're connected on their network. You should be able to find out from
the Comcast support pages whether Comcast is one of them; while I'm a
Comcast subscriber, I tend not to use their mail servers, so I don't
know offhand.

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Bill Cole - 27 May 2007 19:15 GMT
> > I've used Eudora for over 10 years and am currently running 6.2.4 on an
> > MacBookPro (Intel) 10.4.9.  I use an airport network at home.  When I
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> Some ISPs don't let you send mail through their SMTP server unless
> you're connected on their network.

Perhaps more importantly, many open-access networks do not allow any  
SMTP (i.e. TCP port 25) sessions at all, because they have no way to
police the problem of spammers (and spammer-cracked machines) on their
free network sending spam. When one is connected through such a network,
the solution is to relay your mail through a provider that offers the
mail submission protocol (which is a subset of SMTP that is run on port
587)  or the Microsoft-standard 'SMTPS' which is SMTP over SSL on port
465. Eudora will do either of those as well as SMTP with or without
SSL/TLS on any arbitrary port that a provider decides to offer.

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Now where did I hide that website...

Yvonne - 27 May 2007 19:52 GMT
> > > I've used Eudora for over 10 years and am currently running 6.2.4 on an
> > > MacBookPro (Intel) 10.4.9.  I use an airport network at home.  When I
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> 465. Eudora will do either of those as well as SMTP with or without
> SSL/TLS on any arbitrary port that a provider decides to offer.

Thank you both.  In "settings"  under Send Mail in Eudora is an option
to "Allow Authorization SMTP Relay Personality" with an option for any
of my 4 personalities.  Previously it said "none".  If I change to
"dominant" which is a comcast address, will messages send?  

Unfortunately I can't test it until next month.  :-)

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Yvonne
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Darrell Greenwood - 27 May 2007 20:25 GMT
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> Thank you both.  In "settings"  under Send Mail in Eudora is an option
> to "Allow Authorization SMTP Relay Personality" with an option for any
> of my 4 personalities.  Previously it said "none".  If I change to
> "dominant" which is a comcast address, will messages send?

Depends on Comcast.

If you get a free gmail account, easy these days, I can provide invite,
the answer would be yes.

Further info in a previous posting http://tinyurl.com/2hzxxt

Cheers,

Darrell

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 May 2007 22:21 GMT
> If you get a free gmail account, easy these days, I can provide invite,
> the answer would be yes.

No more need for invites.  Open to all comers now.
Yvonne - 28 May 2007 03:12 GMT
> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
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> Darrell

I also should have probably said I have a mac.com account as well which
doesn't send through Eudora either.  I'm familiar with free email
accounts but was was hoping to be able to reply from comcast and mac
email using Eudora so I have a "sent" record and can file it within
Eudora.  It just makes it easier.  
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Yvonne
Sonoma, CA.

Darrell Greenwood - 28 May 2007 05:46 GMT
>I'm familiar with free email
>accounts but was was hoping to be able to reply from comcast and mac
>email using Eudora so I have a "sent" record and can file it within
>Eudora.  It just makes it easier.

My reply via Gmail...

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This reply email is sent to you using Eudora. A record remains in
Eudora's outbox.

It was submitted by Eudora using a personality with the correct
settings to gmail's smtp on port 587 using authorization. See
attachment of settings file.

Eudora can do this from any location/isp in the world.

Gmail, not my isp, relayed it to you via their smtp server. Check the
headers. The difference is gmail has a server on the submission port
587.

The from address is not gmail's, it is my normal isp.

(discussion... a smtp server must control outgoing mail somehow
against spam. My isp, and probably yours, uses a ip address range
restriction. Gmail's smtp server uses an authorization procedure
through port 587)

Cheers,

Darrell

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