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Printing msgs without headers, titles etc.

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John - 12 Apr 2007 13:49 GMT
Have I lost my mind?   I was pretty certain that there was a way in
Eudora to change the Print settings, so that you can print messages
without all the headers, and also without a title (message summary) and
footer  ("Printed for John Law" etc.) to each page of the printout.

It's years since I used this facility, but now I want to re-configure my
print settings: I can't find any reference to it anywhere in Eudora --
not even in the X-Settings documentation I've got.

Is it -- was it ever -- possible?

Eudora for Mac 6.2.4, freebie version (with ads); Mac OSX 10.3.9

Cheers
John
Bill Cole - 12 Apr 2007 15:54 GMT
> Have I lost my mind?   I was pretty certain that there was a way in
> Eudora to change the Print settings, so that you can print messages
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>
> Is it -- was it ever -- possible?

I don't believe so.

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Peter Ceresole - 12 Apr 2007 16:45 GMT
> > Is it -- was it ever -- possible?
>
> I don't believe so.

Not according to the manual.

You can select a part of the message, hold down the shift key and then
go Cmd-P, or select 'Print selection' from the menu; that way you don't
get the headers. But I haven't found a way to avoid the 'from' and
'Printed for' title bars.

The easiest workaround is to select what you want from the mail and copy
and paste into a word processor. As workarounds go, it's very easy, but
not that neat. And if you're using format=flowed, it doesn't seem to
copy the quote bars whereas 'print selection' from Eudora does it
correctly.

Using Eudora 6.1.1/OS10.3.9
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Bill Cole - 12 Apr 2007 17:18 GMT
> > > Is it -- was it ever -- possible?
> >
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> get the headers. But I haven't found a way to avoid the 'from' and
> 'Printed for' title bars.

I interpreted the question as referring to those parts...

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Peter Ceresole - 12 Apr 2007 17:36 GMT
> I interpreted the question as referring to those parts...

>> so that you can print messages without all the headers, and also
>> without a title (message summary) and
>> footer  ("Printed for John Law" etc.)

I thought it referred to the title bars *and* the headers.
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John - 13 Apr 2007 09:18 GMT
> I thought it referred to the title bars *and* the headers.

Thanks all, OP here  -- Yes, I was referring to an option for omitting
headers, and a different option for omitting titles, footers, etc. I was
sure I'd had such options in the past ... but since I've used Eudora for
about 15 years, "the past" merges into a fog.

It seems there's no such option, so thanks a lot.

Yes, I was already aware of the "Select text - SHIFT-Command-P" option
(very useful indeed at times).

<aside class="farout">

Specifically, what I''m trying to do is take a whole slew of messages
and print them out more or less as continuous text -- instead Eudora
kindly prints them one per page, with all headers and all titles/footers
... which is what you'd usually want to do, but not in this case for me.

Even more specifically, what I do quite frequently is save a whole
thread from Newswatcher  (which I use _a lot_).  I can then use an
ancient application from R Shapiro called  Mailconverter (FAT [remember
that?]) 2.2.4  which converts saved Usenet messages into a mailbox
format suitable for Eudora.  

I then have a mail folder, which is a permanent record of a news thread,
and can be stored with my mail.

Sometimes, I'd like to print out all those messages in order to give
them to a relative or friend [who knows nothing about Usenet News, or
Eudora, or even, sometimes, email].

*That's* when I want to print a load of messages without new pages,
headers, footers, titles, etc.  

Looks like I have a lot of editing on my hands, whenever I want to do
the above!

</aside>

Cheers
John
Joe Kraven - 13 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT
In article <1hwgwsj.1yacdw21kqhsg0N%peter@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

> I thought it referred to the title bars *and* the headers.

Thanks all, OP here  -- Yes, I was referring to an option for omitting
headers, and a different option for omitting titles, footers, etc. I was
sure I'd had such options in the past ... but since I've used Eudora for
about 15 years, "the past" merges into a fog.

It seems there's no such option, so thanks a lot.

Yes, I was already aware of the "Select text - SHIFT-Command-P" option
(very useful indeed at times).

<aside class="farout">

Specifically, what I''m trying to do is take a whole slew of messages
and print them out more or less as continuous text -- instead Eudora
kindly prints them one per page, with all headers and all titles/footers
... which is what you'd usually want to do, but not in this case for me.

Even more specifically, what I do quite frequently is save a whole
thread from Newswatcher  (which I use _a lot_).  I can then use an
ancient application from R Shapiro called  Mailconverter (FAT [remember
that?]) 2.2.4  which converts saved Usenet messages into a mailbox
format suitable for Eudora.  

I then have a mail folder, which is a permanent record of a news thread,
and can be stored with my mail.

Sometimes, I'd like to print out all those messages in order to give
them to a relative or friend [who knows nothing about Usenet News, or
Eudora, or even, sometimes, email].

*That's* when I want to print a load of messages without new pages,
headers, footers, titles, etc.  

Looks like I have a lot of editing on my hands, whenever I want to do
the above!

</aside>

Cheers
John
John H Meyers - 13 Apr 2007 23:14 GMT
> Specifically, what I''m trying to do is take a whole slew of messages
> and print them out more or less as continuous text -- instead Eudora
> kindly prints them one per page, with all headers and all titles/footers
> ... which is what you'd usually want to do, but not in this case for me.

How about selecting a group of messages
and starting a "reply" or "reply all"
(with "Generate multiple messages on Reply" turned on);
would this create one single message containing
all those selected, and then permit printing that one message?
(of course you would discard it after printing and not send it).

If the messages are plain text (not html) then the desired
collection of messages might also be copied to a "dummy" mailbox,
then the entire "dummy" mailbox file might be printed "offline"
as plain text, which would retain more header info per message.

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John H Meyers - 13 Apr 2007 23:16 GMT
Erratum -- I wrote:

[reply to an entire group of messages]

> (with "Generate multiple messages on Reply" turned on);

Sorry, make that "turned OFF" !

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David Morrison - 14 Apr 2007 12:38 GMT
> Specifically, what I''m trying to do is take a whole slew of messages
> and print them out more or less as continuous text -- instead Eudora
> kindly prints them one per page, with all headers and all titles/footers
> ... which is what you'd usually want to do, but not in this case for me.

I missed the start of this thread so it may have already been suggested,
but if you select a number of messages, select Save As from the File
menu, then uncheck the "Include headers" check box, you end up with a
text file with no headers and no page breaks. You can then print this as
required.

David
John - 16 Apr 2007 09:15 GMT
In article
<davidmor-28599C.21384514042007@eth00.pnews.internode.on.net>,

> > Specifically, what I''m trying to do is take a whole slew of messages
> > and print them out more or less as continuous text -- instead Eudora
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> text file with no headers and no page breaks. You can then print this as
> required.

Thanks for the further advice (both to you and to John Meyers). I'll try
these!

John
Kathy Morgan - 12 Apr 2007 16:36 GMT
> Have I lost my mind?   I was pretty certain that there was a way in
> Eudora to change the Print settings, so that you can print messages
> without all the headers, and also without a title (message summary) and
> footer  ("Printed for John Law" etc.) to each page of the printout.

You can select the text that you do want to print, then hold down the
shift key while you select the menu item File | Print Selection.  I
can't remember if that also prints with the title and footer, or how to
get rid of the title and footer, but I'm sure I've read here that it can
be done.  I can't find it in the X-Settings either, so you might Google
for information on that or check the full manual.

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