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Mac Forum / Applications / Eudora / February 2007Personalities and replies
My mail to one particular friend seems not to be getting through at the moment. One possibility is that her ISP's spamtrap is rejecting mail from my ISP. That's happened in the past, though there haven't been reports on my ISP's forum very recently. Another thought that occurs to me is that my From address is my college address, whereas mail is sent via my ISP's mail server. Could this cause her ISP to reject my mail? And, which is the real point of my question, is there a way of associating a non-dominant personality with all my mail to her, whether initiated by me or in reply to her mails. Obviously I can do it manually each time, but I am likely to forget.  Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > My mail to one particular friend seems not to be getting through at the > moment. One possibility is that her ISP's spamtrap is rejecting mail [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > address, whereas mail is sent via my ISP's mail server. Could this cause > her ISP to reject my mail? Possible. It is particularly likely if your college has published SPF records in DNS defining where mail from their users is likely (and unlikely) to come from. > And, which is the real point of my question, is there a way of > associating a non-dominant personality with all my mail to her, whether > initiated by me or in reply to her mails. Obviously I can do it manually > each time, but I am likely to forget. I don't think so. You might get some help with an inbound filter that sets the personality owner for mail from her, but that won't handle non-reply mail. An outbound mail filter SHOULD work, but Eudora applies those after sending. SignatureNow where did I hide that website... > > And, which is the real point of my question, is there a way of > > associating a non-dominant personality with all my mail to her, whether [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > non-reply mail. An outbound mail filter SHOULD work, but Eudora applies > those after sending. Bill is right -- Eudora in its present form does not do it. I've put in a request (via a "bug report") for it, for Penelope (the open-source project that will be the daughter of Eudora). So, if you think this is a good feature, please vote for it at: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361321> Personally, I've wanted this feature for a *long* time. I hate when I accidentally send email from a different address than the one I wanted to. Roberta SignatureRoberta Millstein usenet@spamaway.rlm.net Remove "spamaway" to reply -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com [re using a given personality when writing to a given person] On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:47:53 -0600, Roberta L Millstein wrote: > if you think this is a good feature, please vote for it at: > <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361321> The first thing which came to my mind was that it could be an Address Book attribute ("use this stationery"), and it turns out that this suggestion has already been made. It's not a bug, though -- certainly a new feature (does any other product offer anything like it?) The first hint that anything is ever automatically associated with Address book lookups of outgoing addresses seems to me to be the new "Boss Watch" feature; this might have been something to "hook" it onto, if only Eudora were still alive at Qualcomm :( Hope the history and evolutionary biology of Eudora continues to flourish in Penelope :) -[ ]- > [re using a given personality when writing to a given person] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It's not a bug, though -- certainly a new feature Right, it's not a bug. However, the way that the Penelope project works, if you want a new feature, you submit it as a bug report and hope it gets taken up. > (does any other product offer anything like it?) Not that I am aware of. And yet it seems like such an obvious feature, for anyone who uses more than one email address with the same software program. > Hope the history and evolutionary biology of Eudora > continues to flourish in Penelope :) Indeed. Not to mention philosophy. Roberta SignatureRoberta Millstein usenet@spamaway.rlm.net Remove "spamaway" to reply -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > [re using a given personality when writing to a given person] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > It's not a bug, though -- certainly a new feature The Penelope project is using Bugzilla for feature requests as well. > (does any other product offer anything like it?) Outlook seems to have a stronger binding of personalities to messages than Eudora, so how you get a message determines how responses go. I am no fan of Microsoft's mail software, but in many user-facing aspects Outlook does useful things. I cannot express in civil terms how frustrating it is for me to have a list of things Outlook does better than Eudora. I would not touch Outlook if I was not required to do so for work. > The first hint that anything is ever automatically > associated with Address book lookups of outgoing addresses > seems to me to be the new "Boss Watch" feature; > this might have been something to "hook" it onto, > if only Eudora were still alive at Qualcomm :( Eudora has not been alive at Qualcomm for a long time. They missed 2 promised dates for Cocoa Eudora without explanation and there are misfeature bugs (i.e. obviously wrong behavior) that have survived despite acknowledged reports across years and even major versions. The telltales were the serial disappearance of Steve Dorner from this newsgroup and Matt Dudziak from open discussion on the web forums. > Hope the history and evolutionary biology of Eudora > continues to flourish in Penelope :) I very much hope that big pieces of Eudora make it to Penelope, but I'm also keeping an eye on Mulberry and have poked Cyrus a few times about the places it isn't quite up to Eudora's behavior. It is very frustrating that the existence of so many second-rate free mailers has led to the collapse of the market for first-rate mailers, and we have basically been left with weak development on a bunch of promising ideas. SignatureNow where did I hide that website... > Eudora has not been alive at Qualcomm for a long time. They missed 2 > promised dates for Cocoa Eudora without explanation and there are > misfeature bugs (i.e. obviously wrong behavior) that have survived > despite acknowledged reports across years and even major versions. > The telltales were the serial disappearance of Steve Dorner from this > newsgroup and Matt Dudziak from open discussion on the web forums. Well, Matt's currently discussing Penelope in Qualcomm's forum: http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showpost.php?p=31156&postcount=7 > I very much hope that big pieces of Eudora make it to Penelope, > but I'm also keeping an eye on Mulberry and have poked Cyrus a few times > about the places it isn't quite up to Eudora's behavior. It is very > frustrating that the existence of so many second-rate free mailers has > led to the collapse of the market for first-rate mailers, and we have > basically been left with weak development on a bunch of promising ideas. Hmm.. hadn't heard of those yet. Is it this one? http://www.mulberrymail.com/ "Please note that there is no official support for Mulberry now - community support via mailing lists and other such resources will be used instead." I couldn't quite find references to Cyrus, except as an IMAP server. Thanks a lot for adding your info, and I hope that something first-rate manages to persist (Eudora will do for me :) -[ ]- > > Eudora has not been alive at Qualcomm for a long time. They missed 2 > > promised dates for Cocoa Eudora without explanation and there are [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > community support via mailing lists and other such resources > will be used instead." i.e. about like what we can expect from Penelope. > I couldn't quite find references to Cyrus, except as an IMAP server. Sorry, I was too concise. I was referring to Cyrus Daboo, the author of Mulberry who has rescued it from the ashes of the attempt to make it a commercial mailer. > Thanks a lot for adding your info, and I hope that something > first-rate manages to persist (Eudora will do for me :) Sadly, it is possible to list very real gaps in Eudora (e.g. automated archiving, filter flexibility, IMAP interaction with identity handling) relative to very popular mail clients like Outlook (EWWW!) and Apple Mail. If you want a feature set that matches some mix of whay various other mailers offer, there is no choice. SignatureNow where did I hide that website... > > And, which is the real point of my question, is there a way of > > associating a non-dominant personality with all my mail to her, whether [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > non-reply mail. An outbound mail filter SHOULD work, but Eudora applies > those after sending. I worked out what I needed, since it's only one person who is having trouble with my mail, as far as I know. I set up a gmail account which hopefully won't have these issues. I hadn't previously realised that this can be accessed by Eudora for both sending and receiving - I had thought it was Web based. Then I created a personality to use gmail. Filtering her messages to me to take this personality deals with my replies to her messages. For new messages to her I created a stationery item of a message To her, with the relevant personality, and with no signature (which she prefers), and I will choose this rather than using the "send message to" menu item. Signaturehttp://www.decohen.com Send e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > I worked out what I needed, since it's only one person > who is having trouble with my mail, as far as I know. > > I set up a gmail account which hopefully won't have these issues. > I hadn't previously realised that this can be accessed by Eudora > for both sending and receiving - I had thought it was Web based. Gmail does provide an SMTP server as well as POP access (this can be quite helpful when traveling, so that you don't need to change SMTP servers while connecting via different networks); you have the option, however, to continue using your existing local SMTP server for dropping off outgoing mail, just as there is no need to go all the way to any distant post office where you maintain a Post Office Box just to drop off outgoing mail; the nearest outgoing public drop will always suffice (and also avoids restrictions that Gmail may not allow you to use any "From:" address in outgoing mail that you have not registered and confirmed, thus making it difficult to use "nospam" fake addresses when posting to mailing lists or mail gateways, for example). Another caution about Gmail's POP access is that you can not "share" a Gmail-based "POP account" between two or more computers, because Gmail takes control of "leave mail on server" away from Eudora (or from any other client), and will deliver any message to only the first POP client which connects (this protects Gmail against POP clients deleting from the "web view," and also protects POP clients against having to maintain a list of so many thousands of potentially already-downloaded messages which still remain stored on the Gmail web server). -[ ]- |
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