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John Law - 19 Feb 2007 09:46 GMT
Been using Mac Eudora for c.15 years.  Just moved to 6.2.4.

I like to use Plain Text for all messages.  Ours is a predominantly
Outlook Exchange institution, so naturally I receive dozens of rich-text
(or worse) messages.  When I reply to these, I would like the quoted
text to have ">" prefixed and for the whole message to become plain text.

I'm sure that this *used* to happen with 6.2.3 and previous, but it
doesn't seem to happen in 6.2.4:   either I get the deadly "|" prefixes
(and have to specify "BOTH" in the reply-to option dialog),   or I get
nothing.    

Further, when I look at my own replies across in Exchange (I can hop
platforms), a message sent as "BOTH" has lost the "|" as well, so I'm
getting the worst of both worlds.

Am I missing something?   Or -- a possibility -- have I in fact always
missed this, and just not been aware of it?    (as you know: once you've
been using an application for a while, there's a million things that you
just take for granted and don't think about.)

Hope someone can advise on this: I am a Plain-Text-and-">"  man.

Cheers
John Law
Newcastle University
UK
Darrell Greenwood - 21 Feb 2007 18:11 GMT
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> Been using Mac Eudora for c.15 years.  Just moved to 6.2.4.
>
> I like to use Plain Text for all messages.  

I do also. I have been lurking on this thread awaiting replies for my
own use.

> Ours is a predominantly
> Outlook Exchange institution, so naturally I receive dozens of rich-text
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> (and have to specify "BOTH" in the reply-to option dialog),   or I get
> nothing.    

I get the deadly "|".

I do not get nothing.

Note that I have fiddled with x settings (e.g.
<x-eudora-setting:260=31>) in an attempt to solve this problem and my
Eudora 6.2.4 is not at default settings in this area. See also
http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html

> Further, when I look at my own replies across in Exchange (I can hop
> platforms), a message sent as "BOTH" has lost the "|" as well, so I'm
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Hope someone can advise on this: I am a Plain-Text-and-">"  man.

I will note that email that I get is mostly plain text, in fact when I
went looking for an email with styled text I couldn't find one. One
came in this morning so I was able to use it as an test case.

What I do is use key commands to convert the reply.

Command R (reply), Command shift option T, (convert to plain text),
Command X (cut all), command option V (paste all as quote).

(I just did a test. It looks like all the key commands above are simply
to have Eudora render the > rather than | on one's draft, something I
sometimes want. Sending the email without the key commands above gave
me the > on receipt even though the | showed on the draft reply. This
is when checking the send "Plain", and with 260=31)

This approach works for me because I only get the rare styled email I
have to reply to. Still looking for a more elegant solution.

This is a confusing subject. I don't have sufficient time at the moment
to make the above comments as clear as they should be but hopefully
they will give you a lead.

Cheers,

Darrell

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Julian Y. Koh - 23 Feb 2007 23:19 GMT
> This approach works for me because I only get the rare styled email I
> have to reply to. Still looking for a more elegant solution.

<x-eudora-setting:283=y>

All quoted text in a reply will have style information removed and then hard
wrapped.  Qualcomm does not recommend using this setting since it breaks
format=flowed.  

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Darrell Greenwood - 24 Feb 2007 21:16 GMT
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> <x-eudora-setting:283=y>
>
> All quoted text in a reply will have style information removed and then hard
> wrapped.  Qualcomm does not recommend using this setting since it breaks
> format=flowed.  

Hmmm. Interesting. That may be useful. The "hard wrapped" put me off at
first but option Edit - Unwrap appears to work fine.

I'll try that for a while. Thank you.

Cheers,

Darrell

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