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david - 29 Aug 2006 05:55 GMT
After transferring some sent mail back and forward (due to faulty
filters) I suddenly ended up with three copies of some mail in my outbox
(about 300x3). Since outgoing mails don't have message-ID Eudora won't
delete them automatically. Any other way to find suspected duplicate
mails by searching for mails with identical sender, receiver, date and
subject?

8-bit characters seems to have been mangled by Eudora when transferring
back and forth and since most of these mails contains 8-bit character
comparing the body won't work.

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Kathy Morgan - 29 Aug 2006 07:10 GMT
> After transferring some sent mail back and forward (due to faulty
> filters) I suddenly ended up with three copies of some mail in my outbox
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> back and forth and since most of these mails contains 8-bit character
> comparing the body won't work.

There is a setting which may help.  I'm not sure if it works on outgoing
mail or existing mail, or only on new incoming mail.  Install the
Esoteric Settings plugin if you haven't already.  (In OS X you can do
that most easily by finding Eudora in the Finder, Get Info, click on the
plugins triangle, and put a checkmark in the Esoteric Settings plugin.)

You may have to restart Eudora to have the new settings show up.  You
should have a panel "Really Miscellaneous" where you can check a box for
deleting duplicates.

You may also be able to find the duplicates by careful sorting.  I think
if you click first on the date column and then on the Who column, that
the messages will be sorted by name and subsorted by date.  That should
put duplicates of messages from the same person right next to each
other, where you'll be able to notice them by scanning.

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david - 29 Aug 2006 20:06 GMT
> There is a setting which may help.  I'm not sure if it works on outgoing
> mail or existing mail, or only on new incoming mail.  Install the
> Esoteric Settings plugin if you haven't already.  (In OS X you can do
> that most easily by finding Eudora in the Finder, Get Info, click on the
> plugins triangle, and put a checkmark in the Esoteric Settings plugin.)

I already have this setting enabled. It doesn't work for outgoing
messages since it looks at the message-id. However, I found a script by
Andres Starr (?) for Eudora 3:

tell application "Eudora"
-- name the application exactly if you are running from the finder.
-- Recommend you run it from OSAMenu
 set Report to 0
 set Box to name of front window
 set boxCount to count every message of mailbox Box
 repeat with n from 1 to (boxCount - 1)
   --beep
   set aa to get field "date" of message n of mailbox Box
   set bb to get field "date" of message (n + 1) of mailbox Box
   if bb = aa then
     set label of message (n + 1) of mailbox Box to 15 -- lowest user
label
     set priority of message (n + 1) of mailbox Box to 200 -- lowest
     set Report to Report + 1
     beep
   end if
 end repeat
end tell
set Report to (Report as string) & " duplicates marked"
display dialog Report

but it fails on this line:

   set aa to get field "date" of message n of mailbox Box

Any ideas why?

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Sander Tekelenburg - 30 Aug 2006 04:26 GMT
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<1hkunsr.c0a7p13r9rmqN%messages.from.usenetREMOVETHIS@gmail.com>,

[...]

> tell application "Eudora"

[...]

> but it fails on this line:
>
>     set aa to get field "date" of message n of mailbox Box
>
> Any ideas why?

Because you're letting the script look at outgoing messages, which don't
have a date field ;)

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david - 30 Aug 2006 18:05 GMT
> Because you're letting the script look at outgoing messages, which don't
> have a date field ;)

But they have a date. What is the difference?

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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Sander Tekelenburg - 30 Aug 2006 22:01 GMT
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> > Because you're letting the script look at outgoing messages, which don't
> > have a date field ;)
>
> But they have a date. What is the difference?

Apparently outgong mail's "date" is a different kind of object than that
of incoming mail. Not that I *know* it to be so, but that's what the
error message suggests.

Would be nice if I'm wrong though.

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David Morrison - 06 Sep 2006 02:13 GMT
> There is a setting which may help.  I'm not sure if it works on outgoing
> mail or existing mail, or only on new incoming mail.  Install the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> should have a panel "Really Miscellaneous" where you can check a box for
> deleting duplicates.

Having done this little exercise a few times, the removal of duplicates
appears to happen whenever you open (or maybe close) a mailbox. Anyway,
opening it and closing it will clear out any duplicates. (BTW, the
setting suggest this is slow - I have had it permanently enabled for
months and have not noticed any slowness.)

> You may also be able to find the duplicates by careful sorting.  I think
> if you click first on the date column and then on the Who column, that
> the messages will be sorted by name and subsorted by date.  That should
> put duplicates of messages from the same person right next to each
> other, where you'll be able to notice them by scanning.

This will change the sort order to Who, with the messages roughly in
date order. A better way is to click on the Who column, then Shift/click
on the Date column. This produces a true subsort by date for each sender.

Cheers

David
Kathy Morgan - 06 Sep 2006 06:58 GMT
> > You may also be able to find the duplicates by careful sorting.  I think
> > if you click first on the date column and then on the Who column, that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> date order. A better way is to click on the Who column, then Shift/click
> on the Date column. This produces a true subsort by date for each sender.

Ah, thank you!  I knew there was a way to do it, and was too lazy to
read the manual or experiment.  Probably time for me to RTFM again. :-)

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Kathy - If you're reading this in your web browser from Google or
similar forum, NNTP "newsreaders" are a better way to access the
content. <http://www.aptalaska.net/~kmorgan/how-it-works.html>
Links to NNTP newsreaders at <http://www.newsreaders.com/>

david - 06 Sep 2006 20:33 GMT
> Having done this little exercise a few times, the removal of duplicates
> appears to happen whenever you open (or maybe close) a mailbox. Anyway,
> opening it and closing it will clear out any duplicates. (BTW, the
> setting suggest this is slow - I have had it permanently enabled for
> months and have not noticed any slowness.)

This doesn't apply to sent messages since this method uses the
message-id and sent messages don't have this header.

Btw, I have used this since Mac OS 7.5 and it has never been slow, in
fact it has never even been noticable. I guess that remarks apply if you
run Eudora from a floppy disk on an SE or something like that.

Couldn't anyone with knowledge of Applescript update the script I posted
to make it work with sent message too? Would be very appreciated:-)

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Sander Tekelenburg - 10 Sep 2006 05:38 GMT
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<1hl9hr9.gr9np11t1kkugN%messages.from.usenetREMOVETHIS@gmail.com>,

[...]

> Couldn't anyone with knowledge of Applescript update the script I posted
> to make it work with sent message too? Would be very appreciated:-)

Scripting in itself isn't hard. The issue is to define exactly what is a
"duplicate". If you can define that, you can adapt the script. If you
need help with that, you can can ask specific questions here and/or at
<news:alt.comp.lang.applescript>. A crosspost would probably be quite
acceptible for such a subject.

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