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Matt Simpson - 30 Jun 2006 19:17 GMT
I was playing around and configured the SMTP server used by my dominant
personality to require AUTH for SMTP.  Then I decided I didn't want to
do that, so I turned it back off.  But now Eudora "remembers" that
server requires authorization.  Every time I send mail, Eudora puts up a
dialog telling me the server requires authorization, and I have it
turned off, and the send will probably fail.  It gives me 3 choices, try
anyway without auth, allow auth, or cancel.  If I try anyway, it works
just fine without auth.  But I'm tired of the stinking dialog every time.

I've looked at the Eudora logs, and it looks like it puts up the dialog
before contacting the server.  So the server isn't really telling Eudora
it requires auth.  Eudora just remembers that it required it once.

I've tried changing to a different server that doesn't use auth.  Eudora
still puts up the dialog, and then works with the "try anyway" option.  
So the dialog doesn't seem to be triggered by the server.  Changing
servers doesn't help; Eudora still remembers that the server used by
that personality requires auth, even when it's a server it's never used
before.

Aside from trashing my settings and rebuilding everything, does anybody
know how to make Eudora "forget" that the server required auth once, and
stop warning me every freakin time it sends mail?
Eric P. - 30 Jun 2006 20:03 GMT
In article
<net-news99-3F1E5B.14170830062006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

> I was playing around and configured the SMTP server used by my dominant
> personality to require AUTH for SMTP.  Then I decided I didn't want to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> know how to make Eudora "forget" that the server required auth once, and
> stop warning me every freakin time it sends mail?

My feeling is that your only hope is to trash Eudora prefs and reset
everything. I hesitate to recommend that, for the most part, but
in this case, that's my vote.

Good luck!
Eric
Matt Simpson - 30 Jun 2006 20:55 GMT
In article
<ericp06-C845E0.12030530062006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,

> My feeling is that your only hope is to trash Eudora prefs and reset
> everything. I hesitate to recommend that, for the most part, but
> in this case, that's my vote.

I found the problem.  Too many changes at once makes it tough to figure
out what screwed things up.  I changed from a server that ran on port 25
and didn't require auth to one that ran on port 587 (the submission
port) and did require auth.  I got tired of futzing with the auth stuff
and turned it off, still using the server on port 587.

Apparently (as in I have nothing except my experience to "prove" it),
Eudora assumes that any server running on port 587 will require auth.  
When I have the "use submission port" box checked, it always tells me
the server requires auth before it tries to send.  When I uncheck that
box, it's happy.

It probably makes sense that a submission server listening to port 587
SHOULD require auth, and that's how I eventually intend to set it up.  
I'm not sure it makes sense for Eudora to automatically assume the
server WILL require auth without asking it  (unless there's an RFC
somewhere that says so), but that seems to be the way it works.
Steve W. Jackson - 30 Jun 2006 21:46 GMT
In article
<net-news99-E7C305.15552830062006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

> In article
> <ericp06-C845E0.12030530062006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> server WILL require auth without asking it  (unless there's an RFC
> somewhere that says so), but that seems to be the way it works.

RFC 2476 addresses this port, but I have no idea what it may say about
whether authentication is mandated or merely allowed.

= Steve =
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Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama

Anders Eklöf - 01 Jul 2006 09:07 GMT
> In article
> <net-news99-E7C305.15552830062006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

> > It probably makes sense that a submission server listening to port 587
> > SHOULD require auth, and that's how I eventually intend to set it up.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> RFC 2476 addresses this port, but I have no idea what it may say about
> whether authentication is mandated or merely allowed.

It must be entirely up to the operator, but it sure makes sense (to the
operator) to require auth on port 587...

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