what do you call the line, From 'person' at 'date/time"
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Bea - 18 Jun 2006 17:30 GMT If I knew what this line was called, I could search for it. Anyway, can Eudora insert a line similar to that when I reply to a message? Thanks.
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Steve W. Jackson - 18 Jun 2006 18:19 GMT > If I knew what this line was called, I could search for it. Anyway, can > Eudora insert a line similar to that when I reply to a message? Thanks. > > Bea/NJ That's called the attribution. Eudora should already be putting such a line in your messages when you reply.
I recommend you either get a copy of the X-Eudora-Settings via a blank email to <mailto:x-eudora-settings@tidbits.com>, or that you subscribe to the list so that you'll receive an update every time it changes. Use <mailto:listmanager@tidbits.com?Body=subscribe%20x-eudora-settings-list> for subscribing; the message you receive will have instructions for unsubscribing, etc.
In that list, you'll find all the defined X-Eudora-Settings values, so you can search for "attribution" and see what your options are.
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Bea - 18 Jun 2006 18:30 GMT > > If I knew what this line was called, I could search for it. Anyway, can > > Eudora insert a line similar to that when I reply to a message? Thanks. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Steve W. Jackson > Montgomery, Alabama Thanks, Steve. I will do one of the above.
Bea - 18 Jun 2006 19:19 GMT > > If I knew what this line was called, I could search for it. Anyway, can > > Eudora insert a line similar to that when I reply to a message? Thanks. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Steve W. Jackson Steve- Thanks loads for telling me about the X-Eudora settings. I found what I was looking for and I have to browse the rest of those settings just to see what one can do. I had heard about those settings but never knew how to use them before.
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> Montgomery, Alabama Sander Tekelenburg - 18 Jun 2006 23:22 GMT [...]
> That's called the attribution. Eudora should already be putting such a > line in your messages when you reply. AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r).
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Terje Kleverud - 19 Jun 2006 05:26 GMT > > That's called the attribution. Eudora should already be putting such a > > line in your messages when you reply. > > AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r). Or if you select- and copy a block of text from an older mail and paste it "as quotation" in a new message (Cmd-Opt+V).
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Steve W. Jackson - 20 Jun 2006 19:40 GMT > [...] > > > That's called the attribution. Eudora should already be putting such a > > line in your messages when you reply. > > AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r). I don't think that's the case. I rarely ever use Reply to All. But replying to any message always has an attribution line, and I'm almost positive I've never changed any settings affecting this -- though I have looked into them in the past.
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Sander Tekelenburg - 21 Jun 2006 04:33 GMT [...]
[attribution line]
> > AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r). > > I don't think that's the case. I rarely ever use Reply to All. OK, I'll assume I'm mistaken. Maybe I mixed it up with the paste as Quotation behaviour someone else pointedout.
> But > replying to any message always has an attribution line, and I'm almost > positive I've never changed any settings affecting this -- though I have > looked into them in the past. I'm 99.9% sure Eudora doesn't insert an attribution line by default. (Maybe Kathy.pdf can fill in that last 0.1% ;)) I suport several Eudora users whose messages never contain an attribution line and who wouldn't have any clue at all how to disable that. I would most certainly have never switched it off for them - IMO this function should be on by default.
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Kathy Morgan - 21 Jun 2006 05:03 GMT > > [attribution line] > > AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > positive I've never changed any settings affecting this -- though I have > looked into them in the past. I'm pretty Sander and Terje are right, that by default it only supplies the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm sure it can be changed, though, with the right x-eudora-setting.
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Peter Ceresole - 21 Jun 2006 06:11 GMT > I'm pretty Sander and Terje are right, that by default it only supplies > the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm > sure it can be changed, though, with the right x-eudora-setting. I *think* it's
<x-eudora-setting:8205> # attribution line; from, date, subject, time
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<x-eudora-setting:7818> Reply to sender attribution
Although I've used it, I simply can't remember which, although I think maybe it's the second one to switch it on.
The alternative (rather nicer, really) is SuperSleek, or its successor, which I used in the past.
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Bea - 21 Jun 2006 13:52 GMT > > I'm pretty Sander and Terje are right, that by default it only supplies > > the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Peter Well, I made the change in x-eudora settings and it worked fine. Now, I wonder when there will be a MAC Intel version of Eudora (although the current version works fine)
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Steve W. Jackson - 21 Jun 2006 17:56 GMT > > I'm pretty Sander and Terje are right, that by default it only supplies > > the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The alternative (rather nicer, really) is SuperSleek, or its successor, > which I used in the past. Quickly checking these two, I think it would be the latter setting, 7818, since the default is an empty string (suggesting no attribution, to me).
I've had no luck locating a successor to SuperSleek. Anybody got a suggestion where I haven't looked?
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Peter Ceresole - 22 Jun 2006 01:02 GMT > I've had no luck locating a successor to SuperSleek. Anybody got a > suggestion where I haven't looked? There's supposed to be one called Sleek-a-boo, but I haven't been able to find it this evening..
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Kathy Morgan - 22 Jun 2006 07:18 GMT > > I've had no luck locating a successor to SuperSleek. Anybody got a > > suggestion where I haven't looked? I found SuperSleek at a couple of locations, but I haven't tried it out to see if it works in OS X. See <http://dradul.tripod.com/SuperSleek/> to download.
> There's supposed to be one called Sleek-a-boo, but I haven't been able > to find it this evening.. I found a URL that might have it, <web.green.ch/mfrischknecht/eudora-plugins.html>, but I can't get the page to load this evening.
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Peter Ceresole - 22 Jun 2006 08:20 GMT > I found SuperSleek at a couple of locations, but I haven't tried it out > to see if it works in OS X. See <http://dradul.tripod.com/SuperSleek/> > to download. It certainly did when I tried it with 6.1 in 10.2.8.
But something weird happened; I had a quick check (Cmd-I) on my iG5 running 6.1 in 10.3.9, and I have Sleek-a-Boo installed... I can't remember downloading it at all, but I did- I still have the .hqx file in my downloads received folder. I enabled it and it seems to do what it's supposed to, but I disabled it again because with the X-Eudora settings I've used in the past, I don't need it.
> > There's supposed to be one called Sleek-a-boo, but I haven't been able > > to find it this evening.. > > I found a URL that might have it, > <web.green.ch/mfrischknecht/eudora-plugins.html>, but I can't get the > page to load this evening. None of the Frischknecht download pages seemed to load last night.
Frischknecht? That's the name of the guy who maintains our roof in Geneva. Must be more common than I thought. Or maybe in the dark winter evenings our roofer writes Eudora plugins?
If it proves hard to find, and anybody wants it, email me and I can attach the Sleek-a-Boo .hqx file.
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ReindeR Rustema - 29 Jun 2006 12:22 GMT > > I'm pretty Sander and Terje are right, that by default it only supplies > > the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > <x-eudora-setting:7818> Reply to sender attribution I would like these settings to use 'language' as a parameter. Is that possible in some way or another? Replying to English messages should then give 'Dear from, at date time you wrote:' and replying to Dutch messages should give 'Beste from op date time schreef je:' and French messages 'Chèr(e) from, le date à time vous ecriviez:' and so on.
Preferably using the different date and time conventions. Ideally it should also be possible to choose wether or not to tutoyer (how to explain this in English?) the recipient in Dutch, French or German while holding down some keycombo when replying and even taking the gender of the recipient in account with another keycombo.
I guess this should be handled by a plug-in? A plug-in that does not yet exist? Or AppleScript?
> The alternative (rather nicer, really) is SuperSleek, or its successor, > which I used in the past. It seems Sleek-A-Boo is the successor. No help-file online. I just downloaded it from
http://web.green.ch/mfrischknecht/eudora-plugins.html
You should add is as a plug-in. It suggests opt-dOD for a carriage return in the attribution line, which I need after the 'Dear from,' attribution part, but this does not seem to work. Anyone?
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Peter Ceresole - 29 Jun 2006 23:27 GMT > It seems Sleek-A-Boo is the successor. No help-file online. I just > downloaded it from > > http://web.green.ch/mfrischknecht/eudora-plugins.html That still gives me a 404, as it did the other day. I wonder why? The 404 is from www.green.ch, so the address up to there is valid, but frischknecht and all his works seem to have vanished completely.
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ReindeR Rustema - 30 Jun 2006 00:08 GMT > > It seems Sleek-A-Boo is the successor. No help-file online. I just > > downloaded it from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 404 is from www.green.ch, so the address up to there is valid, but > frischknecht and all his works seem to have vanished completely. I also get a 404 now, but this morning I could download it. Perhaps he shuts down his webserver when he goes to sleep?
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Peter Ceresole - 30 Jun 2006 00:23 GMT > I also get a 404 now, but this morning I could download it. Perhaps he > shuts down his webserver when he goes to sleep? Well he is Swiss, and they like to keep civilised hours.
But thanks for that; it was a bit worrying. You know how it is...
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Sander Tekelenburg - 30 Jun 2006 16:45 GMT [...]
> > <x-eudora-setting:7818> Reply to sender attribution > > I would like these settings to use 'language' as a parameter. Is that > possible in some way or another? I don't see how. It will be extremely hard to correctly discover a message's language (consider that people often use multiple languages within the same text, or even just that languages tend to borrow from each other). Email headers could perhaps contain a X-Language: header, but without a proper Open Standard that everybody adheres to, it would still be unreliable.
Isn't there some latin term that is used universally? "Scribus"?
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> Preferably using the different date and time conventions. IMO it's better to use the universal notation for that, as defined by ISO 8601. ("YYYY-MM-DD, HH:MM", if I'm not mistaken.)
> [...] to tutoyer (how to explain this in English?) Good question :)
> the recipient in Dutch, French or German while > holding down some keycombo when replying and even taking the gender of > the recipient in account with another keycombo. How could Eudora possibly know the sender's gender? (Maybe if (s)he's in the Address Book already, and you store such info there.)
Anyway, I think there are more important things to worry about ;)
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R. Millstein - 30 Jun 2006 17:23 GMT > > [...] to tutoyer (how to explain this in English?) > > Good question :) Answers.com says, "To address someone familiarly, using the grammatical form appropriate for a friend or a peer, e.g., in French, using the pronoun tu." I think even a person who spoke no French at all could understand that. It would be like the word "dude," a word that is appropriate for your friend but probably not, say, for your professor or your boss.
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Steve W. Jackson - 21 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT > > > [attribution line] > > > AFAIK it by default only does so when you do a Reply to all (Cmd-Opt-r). [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the attribution line when you Reply to All or paste as quotation. I'm > sure it can be changed, though, with the right x-eudora-setting. I have Eudora installed on an iMac that I never use for mail but my wife does. I just checked there and confirmed that no attribution is present by default. So I obviously used some X-Eudora-Setting or something to cause it to appear in mine at some point. Hmm.....
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Jun 2006 18:24 GMT > If I knew what this line was called, I could search for it. Attribution.
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