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Import IMAP-mailboxes from Windows-Thunderbird to Eudora

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david - 15 Jun 2006 19:45 GMT
How can I import IMAP-mailboxes (I no longer have access to the
IMAP-account) stored in Thunderbird for Windows-format into Eudora?

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david - 18 Jun 2006 09:52 GMT
> How can I import IMAP-mailboxes (I no longer have access to the
> IMAP-account) stored in Thunderbird for Windows-format into Eudora?

No one knew anything about this?!?

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Peter Ceresole - 18 Jun 2006 10:27 GMT
> No one knew anything about this?!?

Sorry- I don't. But look at <www.emailman.com> for tips if you haven't
already. There might be something there.
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Marc Heusser - 18 Jun 2006 11:23 GMT
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> How can I import IMAP-mailboxes (I no longer have access to the
> IMAP-account) stored in Thunderbird for Windows-format into Eudora?

IMAP messages are usually stored on the server, so couldn't you use a
(new) IMAP server with Thunderbird (eg .Mac account, another mail server
provider etc) - which would synchronize all your messages in Thunderbird
to the server, and then use Eudora, which would copy all of the messages
to Eudora if you want to cache the messages locally?

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david - 19 Jun 2006 14:34 GMT
Marc Heusser <marc.heusser@CHEERSheusser.comMERCIALSPAMMERS.invalid>
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> IMAP messages are usually stored on the server, so couldn't you use a
> (new) IMAP server with Thunderbird (eg .Mac account, another mail server
> provider etc) - which would synchronize all your messages in Thunderbird
> to the server, and then use Eudora, which would copy all of the messages
> to Eudora if you want to cache the messages locally?

That is an idea that makes sense. Just have to find an IMAP account that
allows me to store 1 GB or so, or otherwise there will be a lot of
shuffling of mailboxes;-)

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Jon - 19 Jun 2006 14:55 GMT
> That is an idea that makes sense. Just have to find an IMAP account that
> allows me to store 1 GB or so, or otherwise there will be a lot of
> shuffling of mailboxes;-)

.Mac gives you 750 MB, I think. Fastmail.fm gives you around 1GB, and
there are others. Gmail gives you almost 3GB at the moment, but you need
an invitation.

But is not the point that you already have a lot of mail in an existing
_local_ mailbox? You say you have the mail in IMAP mailboxes, but you no
longer have access to the _account_. Too me that sounds like the mail
actually sits on your Mac right now. In that case, you need a new, fresh
IMAP account somewhere. Do you then want to upload all the locally
stored mail to the new account? FWIW, to me it makes sense to store
archived (old) mail and some specific topics maybe on the local machine
inn any case, but YMMV.
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david - 19 Jun 2006 18:22 GMT
> But is not the point that you already have a lot of mail in an existing
> _local_ mailbox? You say you have the mail in IMAP mailboxes, but you no
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> archived (old) mail and some specific topics maybe on the local machine
> inn any case, but YMMV.

Yes, it is stored locally. The reason I mentioned IMAP is that TB might
store mail retireved from a POP-account and mail 'mirrored' from an
IMAP-account differently.

Easiest would be if Eudora just could import everything, with status etc
remembered.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Jon - 19 Jun 2006 21:42 GMT
> Easiest would be if Eudora just could import everything, with status etc
> remembered.

Why don't you make a copy of the mailboxes (backup!) and just try it? If
necessary, you could use Eudora for Windows as an intermediate step -- I
don't know whether Thunderbird uses the same mailbox format on Macs and
PCs. (Eudora's a free download, after all, and free to use in Light or
Sponsored modes.)
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/Jon
For contact info, run the following in Terminal:
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Skype: echo 139576319600233690471689738P|dc

david - 19 Jun 2006 22:06 GMT
> Why don't you make a copy of the mailboxes (backup!) and just try it?

Been there, done that, doesn't work. Which I think is weird; the format
is open and Thunderbird must be one of the more popular (at least top 5)
e-mail clients today

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Jon - 20 Jun 2006 05:38 GMT
> Been there, done that, doesn't work.

Yes, I would have thought you did. In fact I almost regretted sending
the post as I thought "he _must_ have tried that".

A bit of searching turned up this one, among others:

""Using the Free version [of Eudora] with ads, I was able to Import the
mail files from Thunderbird into Eudora [on the PC].

The twist was it would not see the actual mail files, so I used the
prefs.js file.
Using the Import function in Eudora, I specified the mail program as
being Netscape Messenger and browsed to the prefs.js file in the
Thunderbird Mail directory.
""
See
<http://forums.techguy.org/web-email/382472-how-export-thunderbird-mail-
outlook.html> (EAFiedler, 21 July 12:16 -- this guy then went on to
esport from Eudora to Outlook, but that is his problem...)

Another posting in the same link (Kitch, 19 July 20005, 12:12) I found
actually claims that Thunderbird uses the standard mbox format, which
kind of suggests that Mail.app might be able to read the files - it is
supppoed to be using the mbox format too. (I.e., under Panther it _uses_
mbox, and under Tiger it should still be able to rfead/import it, I
guess.) Maybe worth a try as an "intermediate host".

Good luck.
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Kathy Morgan - 20 Jun 2006 19:15 GMT
> Another posting in the same link (Kitch, 19 July 20005, 12:12) I found
> actually claims that Thunderbird uses the standard mbox format, which
> kind of suggests that Mail.app might be able to read the files - it is
> supppoed to be using the mbox format too.

If Thunderbird uses the standard mbox format and Eudora is unable to
just use them files directly, the issue is probably the line endings.
Eudora also uses the standard mbox format but with Mac line endings, so
you could use a text editor to change the line endings on the files from
Thunderbird to Mac line endings and Eudora should open them just fine.
Standard warning: work with copies, not the originals.

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Peter Ceresole - 20 Jun 2006 20:12 GMT
> If Thunderbird uses the standard mbox format and Eudora is unable to
> just use them files directly, the issue is probably the line endings.
> Eudora also uses the standard mbox format but with Mac line endings, so
> you could use a text editor to change the line endings on the files from
> Thunderbird to Mac line endings and Eudora should open them just fine.

This sounds likely. An excellent text editor for this purpose (it has a
menu item to swap the format between PC/Unix and Mac) is Textwrangler,
from Barebones. And it's free...
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Andrew Starr - 18 Jun 2006 15:36 GMT
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> How can I import IMAP-mailboxes (I no longer have access to the
> IMAP-account) stored in Thunderbird for Windows-format into Eudora?

http://www.emailman.com/conversion/

Emailchemy might do the trick.

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