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Mac Forum / Applications / Eudora / March 2006Eudora 6.1.1 freezing under OS 9.0.4
Greetings: I'm using an older Mac and don't see going to OS X anytime soon. The hardware is the 6500 with a G3 Sonnet Crescendo 400 card installed, with 128MB memory. With that configuration in mind, I've stopped the OS at 9.0.4. I've used Eudora 5.1.1 for several years and decided to upgrade to the final version that would work with OS 9 (why? newer HTML graphics that I automatically download freeze Eudora 5.1.1), and that's 6.1.1. Since I downloaded and upgraded, I'm having constant freezes, specifically after simply hiding Eudora and going to another app and then starting to work in Eudora again. Eudora freezes, and there's no way to force quit (option-command-esc) just the app. I have to re-start completely with control-command-power, which I don't want to continue doing. The only workaround I've found--for now--is to ditch the Eudora Settings Backup, which will allow me to normally use 6.1.1. I have this sick feeling I'll be busting back down to 5.1.1, and I don't want to do that. Anyone found a setting or workaround that will stop the freezes? ...observing netiquette, I'll check back at this newsgroup, and e-mail replies gratefully accepted, provided Eudora will work ;-) Thanks, Olin  SignaturePlease remove "SpamErzByte" to reply offline. Thanks! > Greetings: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Thanks, > Olin When I was on 9.0.4 I had to revert to Eudora 5.1.1. I couldn't get v6 to work well at all. You might want to get some RAM also. > When I was on 9.0.4 I had to revert to Eudora 5.1.1. I couldn't get v6 > to work well at all. You might want to get some RAM also. I used 6.1.1, in Light mode, for over a year with 9.0.4 on a Tangerine iBook. It wasn't the fastest horse on the track, but it was jolly stable. The machine was never switched off, only slept, and Eudora was running almost all the time, along with Word 5.1a. I didn't hide it, just let it sit in the background. I just fired it all up again, with Word, and tried hiding Eudora and returning to it; no problem. In a year and a half, I don't remember a single crash due to 6.1.1. Background: Eudora memory allocation was Min: 12000K, Preferred: 25000K Total RAM: 192M The largest and most used Eudora mailbox contains 2400 mails in 9M of space. There are 140 mailboxes. I run Autopurge on the Mac to get over 9.0.4's 'Temporary Items' bug. SignaturePeter Greetings: Thanks for the very quick replies: > > I have this sick feeling I'll be busting back down to 5.1.1, and I don't > > want to do that. Anyone found a setting or workaround that will stop the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > When I was on 9.0.4 I had to revert to Eudora 5.1.1. I couldn't get v6 > to work well at all. You might want to get some RAM also. Unfortunately, the architecture of the 6500 maxes me out at 128MB. What's interesting is that my backup machine, the old 7200/75, with my Sonnet Crescendo 400 allows much more RAM. (I left the mobo as is and slapped the Sonnet in there, which makes it a reliable machine.) In article <1hbp9em.fv79zd1jzdqtfN%peter@cara.demon.co.uk>, peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > I used 6.1.1, in Light mode, for over a year with 9.0.4 on a Tangerine > iBook. It wasn't the fastest horse on the track, but it was jolly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > In a year and a half, I don't remember a single crash due to 6.1.1. I could be using an outdated plug-in. Or a bad x-setting. I'm in paid mode, and Eudora seems to be checking for that setting when it freezes. > Background: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > space. There are 140 mailboxes. > I run Autopurge on the Mac to get over 9.0.4's 'Temporary Items' bug. The Eudora memory allocation is helpful, Peter. I've adjusted the minimum to 12000K, which might do the trick. Thanks again, Olin SignaturePlease remove "SpamErzByte" to reply offline. Thanks! > The Eudora memory allocation is helpful, Peter. I've adjusted the minimum > to 12000K, which might do the trick. If you haven't recently done so, also try compacting all mailboxes and move as much as possible out of In, Out, and Trash; that will help reduce the memory requirements. Another thing to try is rebuilding your desktop. Eudora under pre-OS X was particularly sensitive to the desktop needing to be rebuilt and would develop all manner of weird symptoms. SignatureKathy - no email copy - I don't do copies when the address is munged help for new users at <http://www.aptalaska.net/~kmorgan/> Good Net Keeping Seal of Approval at <http://www.gnksa.org/> Thanks to everyone who pitched in. 6.1.1 is fairly solid now. My 6500 with Sonnet Crescendo G3/400 card (and maxed out to 128MB memory), hardware-wise, works best at OS 9.0.4, with the particular type of software (old!) I'm using, and it's rock-solid (two years ago, I busted back down from OS 9.1 after several incompatibilities). Eudora 6.1.1 has crashed only once since I've put it through all the paces after taking these steps: (1) downloading and installing CarbonLib 1.6.1, (2) checking all extensions with Conflict Catcher 8.0.8, (3) rebuilding the desktop with TechTool Lite 3.0.4, (4) checking to make sure I don't have old, incompatible Eudora plug-ins, and (5) compacting all Eudora mailboxes. The only crash since then is when I forwarded 50 messages from home to work, and in the middle of it all was an e-mail from my second personality, and something between Eudora and my ISP didn't agree. Otherwise, 6.1.1 can handle most gargantuan tasks I'm hurtling at it. Thanks again, Olin > > The Eudora memory allocation is helpful, Peter. I've adjusted the minimum > > to 12000K, which might do the trick. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > was particularly sensitive to the desktop needing to be rebuilt and > would develop all manner of weird symptoms. SignaturePlease remove "SpamErzByte" to reply offline. Thanks! > Thanks to everyone who pitched in. 6.1.1 is fairly solid now. That's wonderful, and thanks for letting us know. :-) > My 6500 with Sonnet Crescendo G3/400 card (and maxed out to 128MB memory), > hardware-wise, works best at OS 9.0.4, with the particular type of software [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > desktop with TechTool Lite 3.0.4, (4) checking to make sure I don't have > old, incompatible Eudora plug-ins, and (5) compacting all Eudora mailboxes. SignatureKathy - read reviews of other newsgroups in news:news.groups.reviews help for new users at <http://www.aptalaska.net/~kmorgan/> Good Net Keeping Seal of Approval at <http://www.gnksa.org/> > > Greetings: > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > When I was on 9.0.4 I had to revert to Eudora 5.1.1. I couldn't get v6 > to work well at all. You might want to get some RAM also. Did anyone of you notice the system requirements: Macintosh OS 9.0 or later with CarbonLib 1.6 or later. I have a feeling that since you haven't updated to Mac OS 9.1 you haven't got CarbonLib 1.6 either. Hint: get 9.1 too... SignatureI recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour > Macintosh OS 9.0 or later with CarbonLib 1.6 or later. and have a real good look at what other extensions you're using, especially third party ones and ones that are different from your old setup, because extension conflict is a common cause of freezes under OS9. Try going to the Control Panel and open the [whatsitcallednow? the one where you can turn on and off extensions] that one where you can opt to startup with the default set. See if Eudora runs any better under that and if it does, add back the extensions one by one or in small groups till you isolate the guilty party. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net > Try going to the Control Panel and open the [whatsitcallednow? the > one where you can turn on and off extensions] Extension Manager, isn't it? My word, it's been so long... I never thought I'd forget that... SignaturePeter > Extension Manager, isn't it? > > My word, it's been so long... I never thought I'd forget that... Yeah - it actually came to me later too when I wasn't thinking about it! (Extensions Manager, to be really picky!) It is amazing how it slips back into the dimmer recesses of consciousness when you stop using something. I remember being several months overseas once and only had PCs to work with, and when I came back to the Mac I had some real difficulties for a little while doing some things that I'd done a thousand times and thought I could not possibly forget. Rifty SignatureAcademic and Computing Help http://rifty.net |
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