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Eudora 6.2.3 problems

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Beth Muramoto - 01 Feb 2006 20:33 GMT
I have users who are using Macs, Panther OSX version 10.3.9 and Eudora
version 6.2.3 who are having intermittent problems where their eudora
will hang for a very long time before it downloads their mail from our
mail server.  It is only this select 3 users who seem to be having the
problem. We have tried everything such as trashing and recreating their
eudora settings files, the plists files in their
users>library>preferences folder and they seem to help for a few weeks,
but the exact same problem occurs.  Does anyone have any ideas about
what might be happening or what else we can try to solve the problem?
Oh, we've also reinstalled the Eudora 6.2.3 version as well.

Any suggestions are welcome.  At a loss as to what else to try.

Beth
morenuf - 01 Feb 2006 22:03 GMT
> I have users who are using Macs, Panther OSX version 10.3.9 and Eudora
> version 6.2.3 who are having intermittent problems where their eudora
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> Beth

Intermittently I have had similar problems I think with same version on
earlier OSX but currently using Eudora 6.23 and Tiger 10.4.2. It does
have a long delay on mail check (not very long time but lengthy). If
left alone it will go through and complete eventually. When I am sitting
there waiting and impatient I will cancel the check, and manually hit
CMD M for mail check and it goes right through with with no delay.

I thought it was a problem with my provider ISP RoadRunner as it was
intermittent, most often going right through the mail check with no
delay.

I never figured it out either though.

Good luck.  Eudora otherwise dependable as always.

Morenuf
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Bernd Fröhlich - 02 Feb 2006 08:36 GMT
> Intermittently I have had similar problems I think with same version on
> earlier OSX but currently using Eudora 6.23 and Tiger 10.4.2. It does
> have a long delay on mail check (not very long time but lengthy). If
> left alone it will go through and complete eventually.

Yep, same here.
When that happens I just wait it out. I'm of the patient kind (mostly
:-)
But if someone finds a cure for that behaviour I would like to hear of
it.
Beth Muramoto - 02 Feb 2006 16:24 GMT
Morenuf,

Thanks for sharing your similar experience.  The lag is as long as
15-20 minutes and then you're right, it normalizes after that.  The
mailserver seems to be fine because everyone else isn't having the
problem and we all go to the same server.

The users have been patient with the problem, but want a solution and
not have to live with it.

Thanks again!

Beth
Bernd Fröhlich - 03 Feb 2006 08:34 GMT
> Thanks for sharing your similar experience.  The lag is as long as
> 15-20 minutes and then you're right, it normalizes after that.

Hmm, its more like 20-30 seconds over here. So i guess it's a different
problem.
morenuf - 03 Feb 2006 14:11 GMT
> > Thanks for sharing your similar experience.  The lag is as long as
> > 15-20 minutes and then you're right, it normalizes after that.
>
> Hmm, its more like 20-30 seconds over here. So i guess it's a different
> problem.

My Eudora 6.23 delay (when it intermittently happens) in checking mail
is usually less than 1 minute (maybe sometimes longer) but I never
really timed it. I have never had the long delay you mention (not that
I'd let it run that long either).

As I said if I STOP or CANCEL the check and manually CHECK MAIL again it
usually goes right through.  I thought it was an ISP (RoadRunner) issue.

G'Day

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Sander Tekelenburg - 01 Feb 2006 23:12 GMT
> I have users who are using Macs, Panther OSX version 10.3.9 and Eudora
> version 6.2.3 who are having intermittent problems where their eudora
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> users>library>preferences folder and they seem to help for a few weeks,
> but the exact same problem occurs.

Look at your server logs. Look at Eudora's log. Share what server and
type (POP/IMAP) you're using and what these logs say. Share what exactly
about "downloading mail" is slow - finding the server, connecting to it,
authenticating, fetching of individual messages, deleting fetched
messages, etc. The more info you provide, the better the chance that
someone will recognise the problem.

Also make sure that it is not a more general networking problem. (A DNS
issue for example.)

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Rifty - 02 Feb 2006 13:20 GMT
> Look at your server logs. Look at Eudora's log. Share what server and
> type (POP/IMAP) you're using and what these logs say. Share what exactly
> about "downloading mail" is slow - finding the server, connecting to it,
> authenticating, fetching of individual messages, deleting fetched
> messages, etc. The more info you provide, the better the chance that
> someone will recognise the problem.

Very good and necessary advice.  What I would like to know is, are you
(the original poster) starting these three dodgy users off with
absolutely new mailboxes, or are you using ones they have emails from
earlier iterations in already?

If the latter, then I suspect that this could be why they are
experiencing these problems and no-one else. Nothing like an imported
corruption to set off a problem again!

Rifty

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Beth Muramoto - 02 Feb 2006 16:46 GMT
The users are using their original Eudora Folders, but didn't have this
problem until we upgraded to Eudora version 6.2.3, also all 3 have
deleted and recreated their settings files so if they were corrupted,
hopefully making new ones should have solved the problem.  We did
consider that something was consistently corrupting the settings files,
but we have no idea where to start looking to find the "offender".  All
3 users use different kinds of softwares etc. the only thing they have
in common are Office 2004 and Eudora for the most part.

Thanks for your ideas.

Beth
Beth Muramoto - 02 Feb 2006 16:21 GMT
Sander,

Valid points and didn't think to check the logs.  Will do that to get
more info. I have determined with 99% certainty that it's not a general
network problem as well as others in the same offices they are in
aren't having any problems.  Is there anything I should specifically
look for in the logs?

Thanks for your help!

Beth
Sander Tekelenburg - 03 Feb 2006 02:14 GMT
> [...]  Is there anything I should specifically
> look for in the logs?

Based on the little information you gave it could be anything, so you
should look at everything.

Btw, please quote appropriately:
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html>.

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