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I'm back to Eudora!

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Andy Hewitt - 28 Nov 2005 22:32 GMT
Well, after a number of years with Mail, having spent a long time with
Eudora before that (and intermittently in between), I've returned to
Eudora.

Why?, it's a number of reasons really. Until the Latest version of Mail,
I had been very happy with it, with no real issues at all. However,
there are too many bugs now, and I can no longer risk my messages with
it. My daughter's iMac recently lost sent messages, although she is a
light user of it. I haven't suffered this as yet, but it can only be a
matter of time. I also find that it doesn't always download messages,
although other clients do.

Quoting is now broken, and quoting colours never work properly when
editing a reply. Signatures no longer get stripped in a reply.

It's a shame, as it is essentially a good mail client, that mostly does
what I need - the Rules are much better than the Filters in Eudora for
example.

However, Eudora has always proved to be a reliable client for storing
email. I would use Thunderbird, but that too has managed to lose sent
messages, and it can't handle multiple signatures.

So, it's a return to the old stalwart, despite its terrible HTML
handling (something I also require, but at least there is a workaround),
and dated interface. Indeed, my daughter (who is only 11), saw me using
it and asked to have Eudora installed as well. So there you go, I got
another convert at the same time :-)

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Rifty - 29 Nov 2005 00:55 GMT
> So, it's a return to the old stalwart, despite its terrible HTML
> handling (something I also require, but at least there is a workaround),
> and dated interface. Indeed, my daughter (who is only 11), saw me using
> it and asked to have Eudora installed as well. So there you go, I got
> another convert at the same time :-)

Eudora does what good emailers are supposed to - it keeps the priorities
of a good email system. It stores mail efficiently, makes it
comparatively easy to find information in your mailboxes, is very
configurable, and is stable. I'm glad it keeps HTML formatting at arm's
length. Better to leave that to webmail, IMO.

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Andy Hewitt - 29 Nov 2005 22:47 GMT
> > So, it's a return to the old stalwart, despite its terrible HTML
> > handling (something I also require, but at least there is a workaround),
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> configurable, and is stable. I'm glad it keeps HTML formatting at arm's
> length. Better to leave that to webmail, IMO.

I don't entirely agree there. It doesn't keep HTML at bay at all, but
makes a half-arsed attempt to deal with it. I wouldn't mind if they made
a definite effort to prevent it being displayed altogether, IIRC KMail
and one or two others can do this, where they'll display plain text and
strip all the garbage out. Now *that* would be ideal, I wouldn't mind
that if I could still understand the content, but the way it does it
now, you just see a mess.

I believe it only requires the addition of one feature (tables) to
display most pages in HTML in a readable manner.

> Welcome home!

Cheers :-)

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Peter Ceresole - 30 Nov 2005 22:37 GMT
> I don't entirely agree there. It doesn't keep HTML at bay at all, but
> makes a half-arsed attempt to deal with it. I wouldn't mind if they made
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> that if I could still understand the content, but the way it does it
> now, you just see a mess.

I don't agree. You don't have to download the graphics (I have Eudora
set not to do so) and you can usually see what's there without. But one
click downloads them if you wish- and of course 'open in Browser' works
perfectly.

So you get graduated options to fetch just as little as you want- or as
much as you need to understand *if* you want to see more. Because Macs
multitask so well, even under the Classic OS it was a very practical way
of working. Now, with a superb properly multitasking OS, it's a piece of
cake, and it means that Eudora doesn't have to be updated to cope with
every twist and turn of the Browser Kiddies' art.

I think Qualcomm are doing it fairly right.
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Andy Hewitt - 30 Nov 2005 22:59 GMT
> > I don't entirely agree there. It doesn't keep HTML at bay at all, but
> > makes a half-arsed attempt to deal with it. I wouldn't mind if they made
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> click downloads them if you wish- and of course 'open in Browser' works
> perfectly.

Almost. Open in Browser does not work with imported emails. Actually I
might try the no graphics option, that might speed things up a bit.

> So you get graduated options to fetch just as little as you want- or as
> much as you need to understand *if* you want to see more. Because Macs
> multitask so well, even under the Classic OS it was a very practical way
> of working. Now, with a superb properly multitasking OS, it's a piece of
> cake, and it means that Eudora doesn't have to be updated to cope with
> every twist and turn of the Browser Kiddies' art.

Most of my chosen HTML messages are fairly good, and not actually that
many of them anyway. iTunes update is one, and a couple of online stores
I use a lot.

> I think Qualcomm are doing it fairly right.

It's not bad, but the default settings are what's wrong maybe!

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ReindeR Rustema - 29 Jun 2006 12:22 GMT
> You don't have to download the graphics (I have Eudora
> set not to do so) and you can usually see what's there without. But one
> click downloads them if you wish- and of course 'open in Browser' works
> perfectly.

Is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for 'open in Browser'?

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Ron Walcik - 29 Jun 2006 13:23 GMT
> Is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for 'open in Browser'?

Look in system preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse under the Keyboard
Shortcuts button. You can program keyboard shortcuts for any or all your
applications there. I have Command-Option-B set to execute Eudora's
"Open in Browser" command.

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Kathy Morgan - 29 Jun 2006 15:34 GMT
> > Is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for 'open in Browser'?
>
> Look in system preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse under the Keyboard
> Shortcuts button. You can program keyboard shortcuts for any or all your
> applications there. I have Command-Option-B set to execute Eudora's
> "Open in Browser" command.

Same here.

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nosredna - 29 Jun 2006 17:45 GMT
> > > Is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for 'open in Browser'?
> >
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>
> Same here.

I tried that, but it doesn't work. (I quit Eudora and reopened it even.)
I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
nosredna - 29 Jun 2006 18:20 GMT
> > > > Is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for 'open in Browser'?
> > >
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> I tried that, but it doesn't work. (I quit Eudora and reopened it even.)
> I wonder what I'm doing wrong.

(OP) I just realized that the shortcut hadn't saved in System
Preferences. Now it is, and the command is now on my Eudora menu!
nosredna - 29 Nov 2005 02:46 GMT
> Well, after a number of years with Mail, having spent a long time with
> Eudora before that (and intermittently in between), I've returned to
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> it and asked to have Eudora installed as well. So there you go, I got
> another convert at the same time :-)

I'm like you--started out with Eudora, went to QuickMail, back to
Eudora, Netscape Mail, back to Eudora, Outlook Express, back to Eudora,
Mail, and back to Eudora yet again. EUDORA RULES!
 
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