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Mac Forum / Applications / Eudora / November 2005Watch symbol keeps appearing
I am using Eudora 6.2, sponsored mode, on OS 10.4.3 - maybe I should upgrade. I find that after I have read my messages, the cursor in Eudora keeps flickering between the arrow (which is the normal cursor) and the watch (which should only appear if there is some activity). A check in Activity Monitor shows the CPU usage flickering between zero and 20% (or more). So what'sgoing on? I am not consciously doing anything with Eudora other than keeping it open.  SignatureSend e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > I am using Eudora 6.2, sponsored mode, on OS 10.4.3 - maybe I should > upgrade. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Activity Monitor shows the CPU usage flickering between zero and 20% (or > more). I can't remember the exact KB article, but try the tips in <http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2101hq.html> to see if that helps. SignatureJulian Y. Koh <mailto:kohster@northwestern.edu> Network Engineer <phone:847-467-5780> Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University PGP Public Key:<http://bunnytoaster.nsg.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html> > > I am using Eudora 6.2, sponsored mode, on OS 10.4.3 - maybe I should > > upgrade. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I can't remember the exact KB article, but try the tips in > <http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2101hq.html> to see if that helps. I don't think that reference necessarily relates to the OP's problem. I too get the watch appearing that is not associated with getting or sending mail with Eudora 6.1.1 in the paid mode and OS 10.4.x. It is when I go to delete messages and/or close windows. It does not happen all the time, but enough that it is troublesome. This is on a Mac Mini with 1GB of RAM. Strangely, if I run the computer off a clone of the system on an external FireWire drive (7200 rmp vs the 4200 rmp Mini internal), I never see the watch. I suspect that Eudora is writing to the disk and possibly re-threading but I have not been able to pin down the exact cause. SignatureMatt Broughton Only relatives are absolute. [...] > I don't think that reference necessarily relates to the OP's problem. I > too get the watch appearing that is not associated with getting or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > possibly re-threading but I have not been able to pin down the exact > cause. Have you checked if at those times Spotlight is indexing? I have exempted my Eudora Folder from being indexed by Eudora 'cause I found all that writing that Eudora does makes Spotlight way too active for my taste. I can sort of imagine that a couple of writes by Eudora can trigger Spotlight indexing, which in turn takes up so much write activity that it slows Eudora down. And well, given that Spotlight does nothing useful with Eudora mailboxes anyway... SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > [...] > > Strangely, if I run the computer off a clone of the system on an > > external FireWire drive (7200 rmp vs the 4200 rmp Mini internal), I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Have you checked if at those times Spotlight is indexing? I have > exempted my Eudora Folder from being indexed by Eudora Being indexed by Eudora or Spotlight? >'cause I found > all that writing that Eudora does makes Spotlight way too active for my > taste. I can sort of imagine that a couple of writes by Eudora can > trigger Spotlight indexing, which in turn takes up so much write > activity that it slows Eudora down. And well, given that Spotlight does > nothing useful with Eudora mailboxes anyway... Thanks Sander. I had tried to pin it down by using top or Activity Monitor and occasionally would get a glimpse of mdimport or the like hogging the CPU. Most of the time things were so tied up that Activity Monitor or top wouldn't even be able to update their info. SignatureMatt Broughton Only relatives are absolute. [...] > > Have you checked if at those times Spotlight is indexing? I have > > exempted my Eudora Folder from being indexed by Eudora > > Being indexed by Eudora or Spotlight? Sorry, typo. Should have been "[...] by Spotlight". [...] > I had tried to pin it down by using top or Activity > Monitor and occasionally would get a glimpse of mdimport or the like > hogging the CPU. Most of the time things were so tied up that Activity > Monitor or top wouldn't even be able to update their info. FWIW, Here's how I invoke top: $ top -u -F -R -s 3 -n15 SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > Have you checked if at those times Spotlight is indexing? I have > exempted my Eudora Folder from being indexed by Eudora 'cause I found [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > activity that it slows Eudora down. And well, given that Spotlight does > nothing useful with Eudora mailboxes anyway... As you say, I may as well remove my Eudora folder from the items Spotlight indexes. But, as I posted, I am not actually trying to do anything with Eudora when I get the watch symbol. I simply have it in the foreground because I have not yet moved another program to the front. And, as I also said, Activity Monitor shows that Eudora itself jumps up and down between zero CPU usage and a fairly large CPU usage. SignatureSend e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read [...] > I am not actually trying to do anything with Eudora > when I get the watch symbol. I simply have it in the foreground because > I have not yet moved another program to the front. And, as I also said, > Activity Monitor shows that Eudora itself jumps up and down between zero > CPU usage and a fairly large CPU usage. Some thoughts: If you run Eudora in Sponsored Mode, possibly that triggers some (too much?) activity. Do you have the Tasks Window visible, so you would be aware if at such a moment Eudora is sendong/fetching mail? Might Eudora be automatically compacting mailboxes? IIRC there are settings to affect Eudora's responsiveness to keystrokes. You make it more responsive, by telling it to postpone some other actions (such as filtering). When you do nothing, postponed actions might be triggered, thus Eudora activity. (But shouldn't last 'long' of course.) SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If you run Eudora in Sponsored Mode, possibly that triggers some (too > much?) activity. Yes, I do. But what? > Do you have the Tasks Window visible, Yes. >so you would be aware if at such a > moment Eudora is sendong/fetching mail? It's definitely not sending or receiving. > Might Eudora be automatically compacting mailboxes? Perhaps. > IIRC there are settings to affect Eudora's responsiveness to keystrokes. > You make it more responsive, by telling it to postpone some other > actions (such as filtering). When you do nothing, postponed actions > might be triggered, thus Eudora activity. (But shouldn't last 'long' of > course.) Just possibly I have wrongly assumed that this behaviour should stop much sooner than it has done. I will keep a look out over a longer period. but at the moment I am inclined to think it relates to something on anothewr thread, that referred to hard disk activity. Keeping a record in the Dock of unread messages may have an effect, especially when a large number of messages are transferred from one mailbox to another (one mailing list is very active, with about 500 messages when I got back after five days absence, and after reading all these I then trashed them). SignatureSend e-mail to the Reply-To address; mail to the From address is never read > > Strangely, if I run the computer off a clone of the system on an > > external FireWire drive (7200 rmp vs the 4200 rmp Mini internal), I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > all that writing that Eudora does makes Spotlight way too active for my > taste. That seems to have been the culprit. No more delays in the last few days. Thanks again Sander. SignatureMatt Broughton Only relatives are absolute. |
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