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Hugh Browton - 25 Sep 2005 17:59 GMT
Dear All ­

Last night I changed my ADSL login password with Demon. here in the UK. On
the service I am on (Home500), I need to receive emails from a POP3 server
with one password (which still works), and send emails (using Personalities)
with another, SMTP password (which doesn't work, now).

Before I reset the ADSL password, all was working fine, and of course, being
Demon I'm not a 100% sure that their service is working - the error message I
get is "Server not responding".

Would a fellow Eudora / ADSL / Demon 500 service user please remind me how to
set the SMTP Authorisation password.

TIA
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Peter Ceresole - 25 Sep 2005 23:10 GMT
> Before I reset the ADSL password, all was working fine, and of course, being
> Demon I'm not a 100% sure that their service is working - the error message I
> get is "Server not responding".

For what it's worth- I'm not using the Home 500 service so I don't have
to use smtp auth, but I believe it's the same server over all- it's
working from here.
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Kathy Morgan - 26 Sep 2005 07:19 GMT
> the error message I
> get is "Server not responding".

If the server isn't responding, try increasing the server timeout.
You'll need to activate the Esoteric Settings plugin, if you haven't
already, to access the server timeouts pane.

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Hugh Browton - 26 Sep 2005 10:13 GMT
>> the error message I
>> get is "Server not responding".
>
> If the server isn't responding, try increasing the server timeout.
> You'll need to activate the Esoteric Settings plugin, if you haven't
> already, to access the server timeouts pane.

Thanks for this. Demon make emailing more difficult on their Home500 service
(you have to send from a separate Eudora Personality to the Dominant). And
this requires Eudora to use a POP3 password, and an SMTP password. It was
working just fine on saturday, and then I needed to reset my router, and
login password (a mistake in retrospect, of course!), and now I can't send
emails.

Like most ISPs, Demon's Technical Support is over-loaded (read understaffed),
and there are only a few people there who use and understand Apple Macintosh
software (despite a much-touted tie up with Apple Computer) :-(

So whilst waiting for one of them to get back to me, I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks

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Hugh Browton - 28 Sep 2005 05:19 GMT
> Dear All ­
>
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> Before I reset the ADSL password, all was working fine, and of course, being
> Demon I'm not a 100% sure that their service is working - the error message I

> get is "Server not responding".
>
> Would a fellow Eudora / ADSL / Demon 500 service user please remind me how to

> set the SMTP Authorisation password.
>
> TIA

OK, now fixed.

I've printed out the settings for reference - to do with relay personalities,
and not ticking boxes that Eudora manual tells you to tick, AFAICS.

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Hugh Browton - 05 Jun 2006 22:11 GMT
>> Dear All ­
>>
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>
> I've printed out the settings for reference - to do with relay personalities,

> and not ticking boxes that Eudora manual tells you to tick, AFAICS.

Hah!! Just set up a third personality which DOES require me to "Use relay
personality"! So that's two that don't and one that does. Go figure.

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Kathy Morgan - 07 Jun 2006 00:10 GMT
> Hah!! Just set up a third personality which DOES require me to "Use relay
> personality"! So that's two that don't and one that does. Go figure.

It has to do with the settings on the SMTP server.  Some will allow you
to relay mail, and some won't.  It used to be that most of them would,
but spammers hijack them for sending out spam, so now a well-run SMTP
server generally requires some kind of authentication and there are
numerous different authentication schemes.  If the authentication
requires that you have to be using an IP address associated with the
server and you're connected with an IP address not associated with the
server, then you would need to set Eudora to use the relay personality
when sending mail from that personality.

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Hugh Browton - 26 Jun 2006 17:18 GMT
>> Hah!! Just set up a third personality which DOES require me to "Use relay
>> personality"! So that's two that don't and one that does. Go figure.
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> server, then you would need to set Eudora to use the relay personality
> when sending mail from that personality.

Fair enough. And thanks.

But I'm sending them (the personalities) all out via the same SMTP server.
The differences are in "Real name" (eg "Hugh Browton (personal)", and "Hugh
Browton (work)", and "Return email address" - which uses other domains which
are then explicitly forwarded to my main IAP.

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