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Karl - 22 Sep 2005 17:05 GMT

all of a sudden I have problems to create filter "transfer"; none of my
mailboxes are available. It says click on a mailbox or click anywhere
to cancel; the only option I have is cancel. I could manually add the
filter with BBedit (Eudora 6.2.3 full version; OSX 10.4.2). it seems
other filter options (mark read etc...) work.

Karl.

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Kathy Morgan - 23 Sep 2005 06:10 GMT

> all of a sudden I have problems to create filter "transfer"; none of my
> mailboxes are available. It says click on a mailbox or click anywhere
> to cancel; the only option I have is cancel. I could manually add the
> filter with BBedit (Eudora 6.2.3 full version; OSX 10.4.2). it seems
> other filter options (mark read etc...) work.

Oddly, I had the same thing happen to me recently in Eudora 6.2.1 paid,
possibly shortly after I upgraded to OS X 10.4.2 (I don't remember for
sure now.) I don't know what caused it and I don't know for sure what
fixed it. To be honest, I'd forgotten about it until I saw your post,
and now I see my filters are working normally again.

I think maybe I shut the Mac off before I had a chance to deal with the
problem, and after I restarted, Eudora was back to her normal self.
Anyway, that's the first thing I'd try--quit everything and restart the
Mac. If that doesn't fix Eudora, try repairing permissions--I've done
that several times recently, too, so maybe that was what fixed Eudora.

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Sander Tekelenburg - 23 Sep 2005 15:27 GMT

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> If that doesn't fix Eudora, try repairing permissions--I've done
> that several times recently, too, so maybe that was what fixed Eudora.

If you'r referring to Disk Utility's Repair Permissions: it does not
affect Eudora. All that does is set permissions on Apple-provided
software (system + applications) back to a default. It doesn't do
anything with third-party applications or with what's in your home
folder.

(Running Repair Permissions should't even be necessary. Permissions
don't spontaneously change, they must be made to change. Either by a
human, or a program. In practice it seem to be mostly installer scripts
(requiring Admin rights) that will mess up permissions of your system.)

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Kathy Morgan - 24 Sep 2005 05:58 GMT

> f you'r referring to Disk Utility's Repair Permissions: it does not
> affect Eudora. All that does is set permissions on Apple-provided
> software (system + applications) back to a default. It doesn't do
> anything with third-party applications or with what's in your home
> folder.

I didn't know that. I really don't quite understand the permissions
issue at all, so when all else fails, that's something I try. With your
explanation, at least that's one thing I can stop wasting time on in the
situations where it surely won't help. :-)

> (Running Repair Permissions should't even be necessary. Permissions
> don't spontaneously change, they must be made to change. Either by a
> human, or a program. In practice it seem to be mostly installer scripts
> (requiring Admin rights) that will mess up permissions of your system.)

I've recently run several installers, so Disk Utility did find some
items it claimed to repair, but you're right--they were on
Apple-provided software.

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Sander Tekelenburg - 24 Sep 2005 06:33 GMT

> > f you'r referring to Disk Utility's Repair Permissions: it does not
> > affect Eudora. All that does is set permissions on Apple-provided
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> I didn't know that. I really don't quite understand the permissions
> issue at all, so when all else fails, that's something I try.

Well, it's harmless[*] so it doesn't hurt to try, other than the time
spent. In fact I tend to advise people run it before and after running
installers, including Apple's own Software Update. Wrong permissions can
result in wrong/incomplete installations that in turn can be a lot
harder to fix.

[...]

> I've recently run several installers, so Disk Utility did find some
> items it claimed to repair, but you're right--they were on
> Apple-provided software.

Note that, to confuse matters, Repair Permissions will in most cases
tell you it repaired something. The mere fact that it tells you it fixed
something doesn't really mean something was wrong. It will aply some
fixes always on every run. (You'll recognize them if you run repair
Permissions twice in a row.) Nothing to worry about. But it can be
useful to realize which repairs are actual repairs, and which are just
ritual.

[*] Unless you *want* different permissions on 1 or more of the files
that Repair Permissions works on. I'm sure that doesn't apply to many
people though.

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Karl - 26 Sep 2005 14:52 GMT

> > all of a sudden I have problems to create filter "transfer"; none of my
> > mailboxes are available. It says click on a mailbox or click anywhere
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> Mac. If that doesn't fix Eudora, try repairing permissions--I've done
> that several times recently, too, so maybe that was what fixed Eudora.

unfortunately restarting the application/computer didn't solve the
problem. Doing permission repair etc is done on a routine basis anyway
but that didn't solve the problem either. Icould delete the preference
file, but in the moment I don't have enough time to play around to see
if that fixes the problem: I just don't use the 'transfer filter'.

Thanks, Karl.

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