>> I created a "business" card for my signature line. Current format is
>> Tif. I want to add a hyperlink to the graphic so that when you pass
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> preferred font, size, and so on, and the messages would be small and
> would download much faster for them.
> > If you'd send plain text emails instead of these HTML monstrosities,
> > your readers would have the freedom to read your emails in *their own*
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> receiving. E.g., I prefer to see and use bold or italics or underline for
> emphasis rather than SHOUTING, er, CAPS.
There are ways to *emphasize* different _things_ in /messages/ without
CAPITALIZATION. And those other ways allow the person reading the
message to read it in their own preferred font, size, style.
> While your points, especially on the size of messages with attached images
> are well-taken, most users, especially in the US are now on broadband
> connections, so the difference in time that it takes to download HTML rather
> than plain text messages without images is not even noticeable.
Sure - who cares that some people aren't on broadband. They don't
deserve consideration, right?
And that still leaves the poor folks would would really prefer to read
their email in *their own* preferred font. I don't want 10 people
enforcing their own individual styles on me. I want to read my email in
my own preferred font and so on. HTML email is inconsiderate to the
needs of the people you want to read the email.
> FYI, this message sent in HTML (with a few words bolded or italicized) is
> only twice the size of plain text, not 3-4 times as large.
I hate to break it to you, but your message was not in HTML:
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Ed Kimball - 29 Oct 2007 18:06 GMT
See below.
>>> If you'd send plain text emails instead of these HTML monstrosities,
>>> your readers would have the freedom to read your emails in *their own*
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> CAPITALIZATION. And those other ways allow the person reading the
> message to read it in their own preferred font, size, style.
My preferred style is neither CAPS nor *asterisks*.
>> While your points, especially on the size of messages with attached images
>> are well-taken, most users, especially in the US are now on broadband
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> Sure - who cares that some people aren't on broadband. They don't
> deserve consideration, right?
With the relatively small size difference (see below) between HTML and text
messages, I don't think that dial-up users suffer a noticeable disadvantage
by receiving HTML.
> And that still leaves the poor folks would would really prefer to read
> their email in *their own* preferred font. I don't want 10 people
> enforcing their own individual styles on me. I want to read my email in
> my own preferred font and so on. HTML email is inconsiderate to the
> needs of the people you want to read the email.
If people send me plain text I reply in plain text. So if that's how you
want me to send you mail, then send it to me that way. But I'd really rather
get HTML.
>
>> FYI, this message sent in HTML (with a few words bolded or italicized) is
>> only twice the size of plain text, not 3-4 times as large.
>
> I hate to break it to you, but your message was not in HTML:
I didn't say the message was posted in HTML. I said that sent in HTML, it
was about twice as big (5.4kb vs 2.7kb) as in text. I sent it to myself both
ways to find out. I'm sorry my message wasn't clear. I don't suppose HTML
would have helped, however. :-)
> ...
Jolly Roger - 29 Oct 2007 19:14 GMT
> See below.
>
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>
> My preferred style is neither CAPS nor *asterisks*.
And your preferences matter more to you than anyone else's preferences.
I understand.
> >> While your points, especially on the size of messages with attached images
> >> are well-taken, most users, especially in the US are now on broadband
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> messages, I don't think that dial-up users suffer a noticeable disadvantage
> by receiving HTML.
Two to four times largers isn't small, by any stretch of the
imagination. I've seen HTML emails grow to quadruple the size of the
same messages in plain text. Multiply that by tens or hundreds a day for
some people, and it can add a significant amount of time to the task of
checking email every day. What you consider to be insignificant is not
insignificant for others. You've made it clear you're not interested in
considering others needs here. I'm glad you don't send *me* an email.
> > And that still leaves the poor folks would would really prefer to read
> > their email in *their own* preferred font. I don't want 10 people
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> want me to send you mail, then send it to me that way. But I'd really rather
> get HTML.
Well that's good to know. You'd never get HTML email from moi. ; )
> >> FYI, this message sent in HTML (with a few words bolded or italicized) is
> >> only twice the size of plain text, not 3-4 times as large.
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> ways to find out. I'm sorry my message wasn't clear. I don't suppose HTML
> would have helped, however. :-)
Ah I see now. Anyhow, personally, I've seen messages grow to quadruple
the size.

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Ed Kimball - 30 Oct 2007 00:35 GMT
...
> And your preferences matter more to you than anyone else's preferences.
> I understand.
Yes, as yours seem to do to you. :-)
...
Jolly Roger - 30 Oct 2007 16:44 GMT
> ...
> > And your preferences matter more to you than anyone else's preferences.
> > I understand.
> Yes, as yours seem to do to you. :-)
> >
> ...
Nice try, but no cigar.

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