On 9/13/07 8:48 PM, in article C30F7CE0.13E52%merb@twcny.rr.com, "Michael R.
Erb" <merb@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> For years, I've been "redirecting" emails to a BCC group-list using
> Entourage on my Mac. Currently there are 59 addresses in the list but there
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> Unfortunately Webmail does not even let you "redirect" an email so it's not
> an option.
Just say you use Outlook Express. The directions should be the same.
Directions for menu commands might be a bit different, but you should be
able to make sense for Entourage.
> Be that as it may, I don't have a clue how to work around this issue. I've
> tried breaking my group-list into two smaller lists of about 30 address
> each, but this also elicited the same error message when I tried to send it.
> I am not having any problems sending a single email out to specific
> addresses but cannot "redirect" an email to my group-list.
My first thought when going over your email, was your ISP has suddenly
started limiting recipients to 50. That's the usual number most ISPs allow,
but since you are getting the error with a smaller number this indicates
something else is causing the problem. I would verify that 30 is allowed
when sending Bcc.
> By the way, I was able to successfully send to my 59 address group using
> redirect with my Apple "Mail" program on my Mac but I did so through my .mac
> account using Apples smtp server. So maybe it is RoadRunner smtp server
> issue.
Definitely sounds like RR is the problem.
> Any thoughts on this?
Your ISP made some security changes and is blocking your redirected mail.
One other thing I would do before calling your ISP back is to monitor your
network traffic to see what their server is actually saying to Entourage
when it fails. This will arm you with enough info they should be able to
answer your questions. The error message you are getting is coming from them
too. What's their response to error message. -3253?
Test your network with tcpflow. Another application I ran into recently that
does the same thing but has a different interface.
EavesDrop....Let it capture some stuff then double-click any of the lines of
text in the main window to see more detail.
<http://www.baurhome.net/software/eavesdrop/index.html>
See this page for more help monitoring your network:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/articles/sniff.html>
Here are the short and simple instructions on using tcpflow:
1. Download the Mac OS X version here (freeware).
<http://web.archive.org/web/20020610050659/http://www2.entropy.ch/download/t
cpflow-0.20.dmg.gz>
2. When you install, you will not find a tcpflow window, nor an icon on
your dock. tcpflow is designed to work in the background.
3. To run the test for email, quit all other applications that might be
connecting to the internet like your browser, ftp client.
4. Copy/paste in this command in the Terminal or use the script ²tcpflow
activate² (see below):
sudo /usr/local/bin/tcpflow -i en0 -c
5. Now try to send an email and watch the traffic in the window of the
Terminal. You should see what is happening.
6. For an example see this page:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/troubleshoot/tcpflow.html#example>
Script to activate tcpflow:
Download this script and place it in your User's Script folder.
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/downloads/scripts/tcpflow%20activate.zip>
Place the script here:
Users --> Library --> Script folder
If you activate the Script Menu in the Finder you can easily access the
script there. To activate the Script menu, go to your Applications folder in
the Finder. Select the AppleScript folder and open AppleScript Utility.
Show Script Menu in menu bar
Select the script to automatically start the Terminal with the correct
command. Enter your password and tcpflow will be activated. Next use
Entourage to send a test message.
Using the script makes it easy to use tcpflow for subsequent testing.

Signature
Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP
Entourage Help Page <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>
Michael - 15 Sep 2007 02:25 GMT
Diane,
Wow, that's one heck of a response. Thank you very much.
Next week I plan to spend time looking into this and will report back to the
group with my findings.
Thanks again.
Michael
> On 9/13/07 8:48 PM, in article C30F7CE0.13E52%merb@twcny.rr.com, "Michael
> R.
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> Using the script makes it easy to use tcpflow for subsequent testing.
Barnett, William - 29 Nov 2007 19:37 GMT
Michael,
It has been several months, but can you share a resolution?
We have recently seen this in our Exchange environment.
- Will
On 9/14/07 8:25 PM, in article
16662ABC-684D-4452-AE37-FD01DCF786F1@microsoft.com, "Michael"
<cnymike@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Diane,
>
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>> Using the script makes it easy to use tcpflow for subsequent testing.