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patrox - 30 Jan 2004 15:26 GMT
Hello

when i create an application there is a file called .xSym  in the bundle,
can i remove it for the release ? what is it used for ?

thank you
pat.
Frederick Cheung - 30 Jan 2004 16:06 GMT
> Hello
>
> when i create an application there is a file called .xSym  in the bundle,
> can i remove it for the release ? what is it used for ?

symbolics file used by CW for debugging. By all means delete it for a
release, it's just wasting space

Fred
Sean McBride - 30 Jan 2004 18:19 GMT
> when i create an application there is a file called .xSym  in the bundle,
> can i remove it for the release ? what is it used for ?

Usually, one would have 2 targets in their CW project: a debug target
(which has the .xSym) and a Release target (which does not the the
.xSym).  You can look at the CW stationary for examples.
Miro Jurisic - 30 Jan 2004 18:55 GMT
> > when i create an application there is a file called .xSym  in the bundle,
> > can i remove it for the release ? what is it used for ?
>
> Usually, one would have 2 targets in their CW project: a debug target
> (which has the .xSym) and a Release target (which does not the the
> .xSym).  You can look at the CW stationary for examples.

Having a sym file can be useful even for the release target, so that you can
debug it, but you should not install it on user's machines.

meeroh

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MW Ron - 30 Jan 2004 21:28 GMT
>> > when i create an application there is a file called .xSym  in the bundle,
>> > can i remove it for the release ? what is it used for ?
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>Having a sym file can be useful even for the release target, so that you can
>debug it, but you should not install it on user's machines.

Those of us in the old school would never do this.  We would have an
optimized debug target but I'd never want to generate STABS or SYM
information or have a chance of passing on anything that would make it
easier to hack a release version.  

Ron

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Miro Jurisic - 30 Jan 2004 22:54 GMT
> >Having a sym file can be useful even for the release target, so that you can
> >debug it, but you should not install it on user's machines.
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> information or have a chance of passing on anything that would make it
> easier to hack a release version.  

I find it more valuable to make debugging easier than to make hacking harder :-)

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MW Ron - 30 Jan 2004 23:29 GMT
>> >Having a sym file can be useful even for the release target, so that you
>> >can
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>I find it more valuable to make debugging easier than to make hacking harder
>:-)

It takes about 2 seconds to clone a target :)

Ron

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Miro Jurisic - 31 Jan 2004 02:08 GMT
> >I find it more valuable to make debugging easier than to make hacking harder
> >:-)
>
> It takes about 2 seconds to clone a target :)

So? I am not talking about not having a debugging target. I am talking about
being able to debug the release target.

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MW Ron - 02 Feb 2004 16:48 GMT
>> >I find it more valuable to make debugging easier than to make hacking
>> >harder
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>So? I am not talking about not having a debugging target. I am talking about
>being able to debug the release target.

Clone the release target, and enable debugging for it and debug it,  you
have it both ways :)

Ron

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patrox - 31 Jan 2004 09:23 GMT
Thank you

By default it was on, i will remove that for my next releases!

The good thing with hackers is that as long as they crack they don't create
competion products ;)  good that they prefer destructive work to
constructive in a way...
pat.
 
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