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CW9 arrived yesterday, and I converted a project over. The new Package pane is nice, it eliminates guessing and hoping everything is in the right place. So far the hardest adjustment is not using cmd-M for Make, which has been around forever. However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE change the mod date on the folder. I know, there are ways to do it manually, but this is something that should be done automatically. -=-=-=-=- >CW9 arrived yesterday, and I converted a project over. The new Package >pane is nice, it eliminates guessing and hoping everything is in the >right place. So far the hardest adjustment is not using cmd-M for >Make, which has been around forever. Can you remap it, I know it is a Apple Style issue. >However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I >remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE >change the mod date on the folder. I know, there are ways to do it >manually, but this is something that should be done automatically. Do you mean when you make from the IDE or you use the utility Make as in a command line. We don't create Make. Ron  SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com > Can you remap it, I know it is a Apple Style issue. What's the new key for Make in 9? It'll be a while before I can upgrade -- I need to migrate my Palm stuff out of Codewarrior first -- but I might as well start training my fingers now. > > Can you remap it, I know it is a Apple Style issue. > > What's the new key for Make in 9? cmd-opt-K -=-=-=-=- >> Can you remap it, I know it is a Apple Style issue. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >out of Codewarrior first -- but I might as well start training my >fingers now. option command k is Make I just use F7 myself Ron SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com > option command k is Make > > I just use F7 myself Oook. Yeah. I'll pick some other key I don't use. That's a bit of a finger full for my second most used key combination (right after save). > >CW9 arrived yesterday, and I converted a project over. The new Package > >pane is nice, it eliminates guessing and hoping everything is in the > >right place. So far the hardest adjustment is not using cmd-M for > >Make, which has been around forever. > > Can you remap it, I know it is a Apple Style issue. Nah, not worth it, I'll just adapt. > >However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I > >remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Do you mean when you make from the IDE or you use the utility Make as in > a command line. We don't create Make. I mean make from the IDE, cmd-opt-K. -=-=-=-=- > However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I > remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE > change the mod date on the folder. I know, there are ways to do it > manually, but this is something that should be done automatically. How about a shell script, run via the shell post-linker, that uses the Unix touch command to set the date on the folder? (See "man touch" for more information.) It has been recently mentioned here that shell post-linker scripts only run if the build is otherwsie successful. > > However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I > > remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > here that shell post-linker scripts only run if the build is otherwsie > successful. I'll give this a try. -=-=-=-=- > However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I > remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE > change the mod date on the folder. I know, there are ways to do it > manually, but this is something that should be done automatically. I second this request. I had to write a post-link shell script that touched the folder. The problem with this approach is that the IDE _always_ relinks even if everything is up to date. For example, I like to hit cmd-R to run my app and have to sit through the IDE relinking everything even though nothing has changed. -Chinh Nguyen cnguyen@stata.com >> However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I >> remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >to hit cmd-R to run my app and have to sit through the IDE relinking >everything even though nothing has changed. Please drop me a note and explain this further, I want to be sure to get everything correctly for this suggestion. Ron SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com >>> However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I >>> remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Please drop me a note and explain this further, I want to be sure to get > everything correctly for this suggestion. I third the request, for this reason: the LSGetApplicationForInfo API uses the mod date of the folder as part of its logic in determining which version to return when there are multiple versions of the application on disk. Supposedly the mod date is only used to differentiate the two when the version numbers are the same, though I'm not so sure the API is that reliable. All I know for sure is that an Apple engineer told me personally that the mod date of the folder is indeed a factor. So I do think CW should touch the mod date of the folder if anything inside the folder is new. >I third the request, for this reason: the LSGetApplicationForInfo API uses >the mod date of the folder as part of its logic in determining which version [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >that the mod date of the folder is indeed a factor. So I do think CW should >touch the mod date of the folder if anything inside the folder is new. I understand this a lot better now and I know there is some discussion about this internally. Ron SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com > >I second this request. I had to write a post-link shell script that > >touched the folder. The problem with this approach is that the IDE [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Please drop me a note and explain this further, I want to be sure to get > everything correctly for this suggestion. You mentioned in another post that you understand it better now but just to be sure, the modification date of the application package does not get updated on rebuilds. You have to add a post-linker shell script that does a touch on the package. Besides the obvious reason of just knowing when was the last time your app was built, I also sort my Finder view of my app's folder by modification date so that I can see my most recent builds at the top among everything else. The problem with the post-linker shell script approach is that it always relinks (whereas before it would do nothing) if nothing has changed. This is annoying if you like to run your app from the IDE and always have to sit through relinking when it doesn't need to. Even if you guys remove the necessity for the touch shell script, the always relink when there's a shell script behavior seems odd. -Chinh Nguyen cnguyen@stata.com I seem to have found a bug where the environment variable $MW_OUTPUT_NAME has the incorrect value. My project builds properly and the package is saved to the correct location and with the proper target name but $MW_OUTPUT_NAME has the actual project name, not output name. If I change the target settings temporarily and change them back, $MW_OUTPUT_NAME has the correct value for a few more builds and then gets set to the wrong value again. Also, why is it when the target name is, for example, Stata.app, that $MW_OUTPUT_NAME is just Stata? In my shell script, I have to use $MW_OUTPUT_NAME.app. I've also observed that $MW_OUTPUT_FILE==$MW_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY. I end up having to use "$MW_OUTPUT_DIRECTORY/$MW_OUTPUT_NAME.app" which works (when the IDE gets $MW_OUTPUT_NAME right) but seems odd when $MW_OUTPUT_FILE seems like the correct thing to use. -Chinh Nguyen cnguyen@stata.com >I seem to have found a bug where the environment variable >$MW_OUTPUT_NAME has the incorrect value. My project builds properly [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >(when the IDE gets $MW_OUTPUT_NAME right) but seems odd when >$MW_OUTPUT_FILE seems like the correct thing to use. Thanks, I'll pass this on to engineering and let you know what they say. Ron SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com >However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I >remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE >change the mod date on the folder. I know, there are ways to do it >manually, but this is something that should be done automatically. Hopefully an upcoming patch will put a change in the ide to make sure whenever anything inside the package changes, the top level folder of the package has its date bumped. Ron SignatureCodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon@metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com > >However, it looks like I need to repeat a feature request that I > >remember asking for with CW8. Please, when Make is used, have the IDE [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > whenever anything inside the package changes, the top level folder of > the package has its date bumped. Excellent, thanks Ron. -=-=-=-=- |
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