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Timothy Stark - 15 Apr 2006 16:51 GMT

Hello folks,

I am looking for Mac Classic Compilers for 68k and PPC machines (Mac OS 7.x
and 8.x). I was searching for some information and software through the
Internet but can't find them. Does anyone have any sources includes
software, etc? How about older Mac OS systems (1.0 to 6.x)?

I was able to find MPW books on Apple web site.

Thanks!
Tim

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toby - 15 Apr 2006 22:06 GMT

> Hello folks,
>
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> I was able to find MPW books on Apple web site.

You did find the rest of MPW there too? That's pretty much the best
development system there was.

Re Systems, Google provided this link http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml

> Thanks!
> Tim

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Timothy Stark - 16 Apr 2006 03:39 GMT

>> I was able to find MPW books on Apple web site.
>
> You did find the rest of MPW there too? That's pretty much the best
> development system there was.

According to this reply, I decided to search for 'MPW development' on
Google. I was now able find MPW software on Apple's FTP server. Thanks for
providing some sources point to... How about older CodeWarrior that support
MacOS v7.x and v8.x, etc? How about Think compilers?

> Re Systems, Google provided this link http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml

I already was aware of that because I recently was searching for older
system software.

Thanks,
Tim

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Jonathan Hoyle - 17 Apr 2006 14:37 GMT

68K compilation is the tough part. Do you have a language preference?

The only current product (which I know of) which compiles for Mac OS X,
Classic, and still 68K, is FutureBasic by Staz Software:
http://stazsoftware.com/futurebasic/ . Code you compile in it can go
back as far as System 6.0.5 on a Mac Plus or better. (Not to be
confused with REALbasic, which dropped 68K support in 2002.)

Everything else I am aware of that can compile 68K are discontinued
versions of compilers. For C/C++ development (which is what you likely
have in mind), the last version of CodeWarrior that supported it was
Pro 6, released in 2000. Surprisingly, CW Pro 6 still runs fine on Mac
OS X in the Classic environment. (However, the Carbon code it
generates is unrleiable on modern Mac OS X, so use it only for your
Classic builds.) CW Pro 6 routinely crops up on Ebay from time to
time.

Hope that helps,

Jonathan Hoyle

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Timothy Stark - 18 Apr 2006 02:43 GMT

> 68K compilation is the tough part. Do you have a language preference?

Yes, I know m68k language reference.

> The only current product (which I know of) which compiles for Mac OS X,
> Classic, and still 68K, is FutureBasic by Staz Software:
> http://stazsoftware.com/futurebasic/ . Code you compile in it can go
> back as far as System 6.0.5 on a Mac Plus or better. (Not to be
> confused with REALbasic, which dropped 68K support in 2002.)

Ok, thanks for information. I will look into that. Well, I now remember
that much older Mac OS system has BASIC interpreter. Which version(s) of OS
system has its own BASIC interpreter?

> Everything else I am aware of that can compile 68K are discontinued
> versions of compilers. For C/C++ development (which is what you likely
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> Classic builds.) CW Pro 6 routinely crops up on Ebay from time to
> time.

Ok, thanks for some information. I had much difficult to find older version
of CW Pro 6 or below that supports 68k/PPC compilations for older Macs
through many sources like EBay, archives, etc. I only found much newer
versions but they only runs on Mac OS X (G4/Intel machine language).

Thanks!
Tim

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Paul Russell - 18 Apr 2006 09:28 GMT

> Well, I now remember
> that much older Mac OS system has BASIC interpreter. Which version(s) of OS
> system has its own BASIC interpreter?

Perhaps you're thinking of the Apple ][ series, which had BASIC in ROM ?
The Mac and Mac OS have never had BASIC as standard.

Paul

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